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Wozniak
 Post subject: Re: Parenting
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:35 pm 
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from one artist to another, i applaud you for not killing the child like i would have done.


Dude it was this portrait for the owner of the gallery I show most of my work at. AND they sat a drink down on my 300.00 leather fucking portfolio...yeah water ring.

the kids heads would have rolled down the hall if i was you.

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 Post subject: Re: Parenting
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:17 pm 
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practice your skills at ignoring.

crosscheck has said it before and i've heard it from my (not much older) aunts and uncles. parents don't want advice from other parents unless it's solicited.


I'm not talking about a lecture on how she should raise these girls. I'm just tired of her letting them tear my house up. I'm not ignoring any of that. During one visit over here they drew on a drawing of mine that had about ten hours of work into it. It was away on my desk and after being told not to go near my stuff they did anyway and what did their mommy do? Nothing. Also when those girls have no guidance it makes my kids act like idiots too. Hard to explain to them why they are getting in trouble and her girls aren't.

from one artist to another, i applaud you for not killing the child like i would have done.


Yeah I don't even like it when people read my writing if I don't ask, let alone fiddle with it.

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Seriously I would have Moorman'd their asses down the sidewalk.

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We're heading to the drive-in tonight with her and her kids....fuck my life. :doh:

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Why is she always bringing her kids everywhere? Nobody else to watch them?


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 Post subject: Re: Parenting
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:05 pm 
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Why is she always bringing her kids everywhere? Nobody else to watch them?


If we were going to a bar or something we'd obviously get sitters but not when we're going to the drive-in. She brings the kids to the house cause our kids are friends and they play together. The life of being a parent.

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Sabresfansince1980
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:54 pm 
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DP, it's not even about parenting so much as respecting someone's household. If anyone at any age is under your roof they need to respect it and follow rules...that simple or don't even knock on the door.

As for parenting...I could go on about my own experiences with my daughter (fairly successful), but that's boring. Instead I'll share some horror stories and funny stuff...

I worked as a school resource officer for four years. During the summer all SROs supervise "Safety Town", where yuppie parents can get rid of their kid for a few hours each day and lounge at the club/pool. Every time there are one or two kids that come in screaming and crying because mom never cut the cord. Mom spends 5...10...15...20 minutes or more coddling the pansy while the rest of the group is getting started. Mom finally leaves (even though she should have knocked the kid off her leg or took him home within five minutes), then the 13-15 yr old volunteer intructors (bless them) try to coddle the varmant into acting right. It sickens me for a minute before I or another SRO step in and take the kid by the arm, yell at him, give him one chance to cooperate or sit in a chair while we call mom to come back and take him home for good. Mom of course refuses to answer the phone (her "emergency contact #), and we baby sit cretin child for another 90 minutes until the session is over. Parenting is indeed a lost art.

Funny personal story...I don't hold back much with my 5 yr old daughter. When topics are complicated I take the extra time to explain them as much as possible, no matter how touchy. This of course often involves aspects of my job and what bad people do and where they do bad things. So this girl is over playing with my daughter in the basement next to the support pole. My daughter starts to tell her, "My daddy told me there are bars where girls dance around a pole na..." when my wife darted over and ended that conversation asap.

I can't wait until the kindergarten teacher calls and asks how she knows so much about "dime bags", eight balls", "bundles", "bindles", and every gang tattoo near the east coast.


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DP, it's not even about parenting so much as respecting someone's household. If anyone at any age is under your roof they need to respect it and follow rules...that simple or don't even knock on the door.

As for parenting...I could go on about my own experiences with my daughter (fairly successful), but that's boring. Instead I'll share some horror stories and funny stuff...

I worked as a school resource officer for four years. During the summer all SROs supervise "Safety Town", where yuppie parents can get rid of their kid for a few hours each day and lounge at the club/pool. Every time there are one or two kids that come in screaming and crying because mom never cut the cord. Mom spends 5...10...15...20 minutes or more coddling the pansy while the rest of the group is getting started. Mom finally leaves (even though she should have knocked the kid off her leg or took him home within five minutes), then the 13-15 yr old volunteer intructors (bless them) try to coddle the varmant into acting right. It sickens me for a minute before I or another SRO step in and take the kid by the arm, yell at him, give him one chance to cooperate or sit in a chair while we call mom to come back and take him home for good. Mom of course refuses to answer the phone (her "emergency contact #), and we baby sit cretin child for another 90 minutes until the session is over. Parenting is indeed a lost art.

Funny personal story...I don't hold back much with my 5 yr old daughter. When topics are complicated I take the extra time to explain them as much as possible, no matter how touchy. This of course often involves aspects of my job and what bad people do and where they do bad things. So this girl is over playing with my daughter in the basement next to the support pole. My daughter starts to tell her, "My daddy told me there are bars where girls dance around a pole na..." when my wife darted over and ended that conversation asap.

I can't wait until the kindergarten teacher calls and asks how she knows so much about "dime bags", eight balls", "bundles", "bindles", and every gang tattoo near the east coast.


:clap:

I treat my kids with the same attitude I suppose. I'm hard on them but balance it with lots of quality time. They know I don't just lose my shit for no reason so when they get into trouble they generally understand that they did something wrong and it's a consequence, not just me getting pissed and blowing my top. Tomorrow my son and this chick's daughter are having a joint B-day party here at the house. :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Parenting
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I would even take the opposite approach. Instead of trying to get this mom to parent properly, tell her you are going to discipline her kid as necessary while under your roof. She'll freak at the first site of you yelling at her, sending her to a corner, or even (yes I dare suggest) spanking her. Then she'll have to take the lead with her kid out of fear that you'll "damage her ego" or some BS. She'll stop comong over...problem solved.

I spanked my daughter around 5-7 times between age 2 1/2 - 5, and made it HURT (some parents are pansies about that too). But since age 4 - 4 1/2, maybe only once, I can't remember. Now she's a genuine pleasure to have as a daughter, with only a stern word necessary to correct a bad moment. Point being that when you parent strictly early on, you save yourself a lot of aggravation down the road. This woman needs to realize that her kid is actually learning how to be a bitch right under her nose, because "she's only two". Waahhhhh...kids need to be disciplined and understand why right from the start.

If you take the time to explain, not just what they did wrong, but why you discipline them, why little Johnny shit head is such an ass at pre-school (because his mom is a wuss), the kid actually appreciates and takes pride in being good (better than "those bad kids"). There's a lot of things, as a nearly complete grumpy old person, that I hate, but near the top is cranky toddlers throwing tantrums in public while mom or dad laugh at how "silly" their little mongrel is. I want to smack the parent more than the kid.


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(I still agree with the Moorman idea)

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A few years back I was visiting home and ate at some Italian restaurant in Buffalo (I can't even remember, but it was a good one right down the street from HSBC). Anyway, toward the end of the meal a table of mid-late 20s women sat down. We all got up, but after I left the girls asked one of my friends if I was Brian Moorman. He said yes, but didn't bring me back in to talk to them. I totally could've pulled it off (if put under pressure, I could've actually punted a football 50 yds due to my old playing days), and gotten laid. My buddy didn't tell me about it until we drove down the road though...I'm still pissed.


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A few years back I was visiting home and ate at some Italian restaurant in Buffalo (I can't even remember, but it was a good one right down the street from HSBC). Anyway, toward the end of the meal a table of mid-late 20s women sat down. We all got up, but after I left the girls asked one of my friends if I was Brian Moorman. He said yes, but didn't bring me back in to talk to them. I totally could've pulled it off (if put under pressure, I could've actually punted a football 50 yds due to my old playing days), and gotten laid. My buddy didn't tell me about it until we drove down the road though...I'm still pissed.


He could have gotten you laid? What is wrong with him! Jealous bastard.

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He must have thought I was too married, and I guess he was right.


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He must have thought I was too married, and I guess he was right.

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I would even take the opposite approach. Instead of trying to get this mom to parent properly, tell her you are going to discipline her kid as necessary while under your roof. She'll freak at the first site of you yelling at her, sending her to a corner, or even (yes I dare suggest) spanking her. Then she'll have to take the lead with her kid out of fear that you'll "damage her ego" or some BS. She'll stop comong over...problem solved.

I spanked my daughter around 5-7 times between age 2 1/2 - 5, and made it HURT (some parents are pansies about that too). But since age 4 - 4 1/2, maybe only once, I can't remember. Now she's a genuine pleasure to have as a daughter, with only a stern word necessary to correct a bad moment. Point being that when you parent strictly early on, you save yourself a lot of aggravation down the road. This woman needs to realize that her kid is actually learning how to be a bitch right under her nose, because "she's only two". Waahhhhh...kids need to be disciplined and understand why right from the start.

If you take the time to explain, not just what they did wrong, but why you discipline them, why little Johnny shit head is such an ass at pre-school (because his mom is a wuss), the kid actually appreciates and takes pride in being good (better than "those bad kids"). There's a lot of things, as a nearly complete grumpy old person, that I hate, but near the top is cranky toddlers throwing tantrums in public while mom or dad laugh at how "silly" their little mongrel is. I want to smack the parent more than the kid.


Amen. I already told her I'd be stepping in with discipline if she sat there on her ass while her daughters were being brats. She's been warned. I told her flat out that if she didn't start introducing limits on these little shits now she'd wake up in five years, try to set rules and find herself in a living hell. I started early with mine, making them clean up after themselves, explaining that running into the living room and just starting to talk without saying excuse me first was bad, please and thank yous, and of course I paddled their butts when they needed it. I actually made a paddle which I used once when I first made it (to scare them) and since I just pick it up and they instantly stop being idiots. Now i just kind of thump it on the end of the bunk bed and they straighten up quick. :D They are still bad from time to time but it is a thousand times more bearable than if I had let them free range.

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That would be Rian Lindell kicking...

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That would be Rian Lindell kicking...

Nit-picker. Grumble Grumble...

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That would be Rian Lindell kicking...


Yeah. Moorman pictures didn't work.

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That would be Rian Lindell kicking...


Yeah. Moorman pictures didn't work.

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