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Sabresfansince1980
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HelloMKG, it's not just about Kassian's attitude, it's also about playing more. He was injured for much of last season, and there's no way you can claim that his game is as complete or finished as Myers.

If the front office thought so he would be signed by now to an ELC. We can think about him next year. Even if he's better prepared and closer to what you claim, there's no way in hell he could fill Grier's skates...that's just a total off the charts proposition.


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could it be as simple as Ennis moving up... Stafford moving down... Kennedy moving out? I don't like it, but could it be that basic?




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extremely boring..... BUT possible?

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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
I read in the TSN comment section that a clause in the CBA prevented Kennedy from being traded before January. I will try to look this up. If anyone else has the energy please do.


I cannot find anything in the CBA under Section 12 that would prevent a player from being traded simply because they were awarded a contract via arbitration.


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Yeah I ran out of patience looking for something, but two people made reference to it at TSN. Even still, the move could be based on simply opening a roster spot. Maybe they still want him, but needed the fexibility of moving him between Buffalo and Portland in order to fit another forward in. I know, I doubt it too...but maybe.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Yeah I ran out of patience looking for something, but two people made reference to it at TSN. Even still, the move could be based on simply opening a roster spot. Maybe they still want him, but needed the fexibility of moving him between Buffalo and Portland in order to fit another forward in. I know, I doubt it too...but maybe.


has there been any official word? or a press conf. scheduled? or anything else?

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reports from msu hockey say that he has cleared waivers, so that debunks this theory...

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Probably, unless clearing waivers eliminated whatever clause that prevented his movement before January...if there really was one.

Either way it's pretty clear there isn't any big trade in the works, so close this thread, lock, nuke it from orbit...it's the only way to be sure.


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Well, it was a fun ride.

It's actually kind of sad, how excited we get thinking the Sabres are really going to make any sort of move. Just shows how starved the fans are for change...

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I think you guys are thinking the wrong Coast...and damn it; I hate saying this, but I really foresee a trade with a team like Boston, or NY Rangers.

Rangers have expressed interest in dropping Redden into the Minors, or buying him out completely; in which case, they'd need inexpensive defensive help (Sekera or Butler) and they are very heavy at forward, especially up the middle. Drury, Boyle, Christensen, Dubinski and Anisimov 5 centers, and excluding Boyle, nobody really plays well at any other position (I say Boyle, because he doesn't play well anywhere)

They also have a few kids in Hartford looking to make a move.

So I'm wondering if we are making a play at something like Butler & another defensive man from last year, for Dubinski, and prospect.

In which case I'd be totally ok with that, and we thin out the defensive ranks a bit, but not losing any key players. This would all of course involve either a trade of Redden, or his banishment to the minors.

Also, Boston is over cap, and defensively heavy, but may want to rid themselves of a Marc Savard, or David Krejci...in which case we have less expensive alternatives at forward, (Stafford, Roy, and Gerbe) that could provide them with the appropriate amount of Cap relief in a 2 for 3 deal or something along those lines. Giving the Sabres the shake up they were looking for, and providing fair value on each side.

Just kinda what I thought when I saw the waiver, plus the Morrison signing.


I can't see Boston giving up Krejci, but if so, I'd love to see him in a Sabres uniform. Savard when healthy is a nice player to have. He was coming on in 2008, but this most recent injury. The thing is that he doesn't play with it and cough it up on the PP like Connolly does.

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well, either Savard or Krejci will go, IMO. They'll have Sequin, Bergeron and whoever they don't trade as their top 3 centers, which is fucking solid.They got 2 million in cap space.

I know this is becoming a broken record, but what about Stafford and Sekera for Krejci?

They need another puck-mover now that Wideman's gone, and Stafford is a body

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Seanothan27 wrote:
well, either Savard or Krejci will go, IMO. They'll have Sequin, Bergeron and whoever they don't trade as their top 3 centers, which is fucking solid.They got 2 million in cap space.

I know this is becoming a broken record, but what about Stafford and Sekera for Krejci?

They need another puck-mover now that Wideman's gone, and Stafford is a body


For as tough of a spot as they are in, I could see that working and its really not a bad move on their part. They get a serviceable top 6/7 D man who could fill in case of injury and former #12 overall pick with obvious talent, but questionable desire in need of a scenery change. Its worked before, hell it worked for Peter Mueller this season. Plus, if it would land us Krejci I'm in. Only issue is, where does he play, first line RW? or move TC outta the #2 center spot and on to the first line somewhere? It would give us a good problem to have with three solid centers but would probably force one or more guys into playing out of position

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
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well, either Savard or Krejci will go, IMO. They'll have Sequin, Bergeron and whoever they don't trade as their top 3 centers, which is fucking solid.They got 2 million in cap space.

I know this is becoming a broken record, but what about Stafford and Sekera for Krejci?

They need another puck-mover now that Wideman's gone, and Stafford is a body


For as tough of a spot as they are in, I could see that working and its really not a bad move on their part. They get a serviceable top 6/7 D man who could fill in case of injury and former #12 overall pick with obvious talent, but questionable desire in need of a scenery change. Its worked before, hell it worked for Peter Mueller this season. Plus, if it would land us Krejci I'm in. Only issue is, where does he play, first line RW? or move TC outta the #2 center spot and on to the first line somewhere? It would give us a good problem to have with three solid centers but would probably force one or more guys into playing out of position

Guys Chiarelli signed Krejci and let Kessel walk(more or less). Its gonna take a better package than Stafford and Sekera.

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Stafford, Sekera, and a 2nd? Or a 3rd?

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sabresEH wrote:
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well, either Savard or Krejci will go, IMO. They'll have Sequin, Bergeron and whoever they don't trade as their top 3 centers, which is fucking solid.They got 2 million in cap space.

I know this is becoming a broken record, but what about Stafford and Sekera for Krejci?

They need another puck-mover now that Wideman's gone, and Stafford is a body


For as tough of a spot as they are in, I could see that working and its really not a bad move on their part. They get a serviceable top 6/7 D man who could fill in case of injury and former #12 overall pick with obvious talent, but questionable desire in need of a scenery change. Its worked before, hell it worked for Peter Mueller this season. Plus, if it would land us Krejci I'm in. Only issue is, where does he play, first line RW? or move TC outta the #2 center spot and on to the first line somewhere? It would give us a good problem to have with three solid centers but would probably force one or more guys into playing out of position

Guys Chiarelli signed Krejci and let Kessel walk(more or less). Its gonna take a better package than Stafford and Sekera.


Yeah but he also signed Krejci BEFORE he found himself in cap hell. Just because he signed him with the intention of holding on to him does not mean the circumstances haven't changed, because they have. Im pretty sure Chiarelli was NOT expecting the #2 overall pick when he let Kessel go and lets not forget Toronto 1st rounder NEXT year too. Kerjci became expendable when they drafted Seguin and everyone knows it. Now that doesn't mean a package of Sekera and Stafford will work but it seems a lot more feasible now than it did 3 months ago.

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
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well, either Savard or Krejci will go, IMO. They'll have Sequin, Bergeron and whoever they don't trade as their top 3 centers, which is fucking solid.They got 2 million in cap space.

I know this is becoming a broken record, but what about Stafford and Sekera for Krejci?

They need another puck-mover now that Wideman's gone, and Stafford is a body


For as tough of a spot as they are in, I could see that working and its really not a bad move on their part. They get a serviceable top 6/7 D man who could fill in case of injury and former #12 overall pick with obvious talent, but questionable desire in need of a scenery change. Its worked before, hell it worked for Peter Mueller this season. Plus, if it would land us Krejci I'm in. Only issue is, where does he play, first line RW? or move TC outta the #2 center spot and on to the first line somewhere? It would give us a good problem to have with three solid centers but would probably force one or more guys into playing out of position

Guys Chiarelli signed Krejci and let Kessel walk(more or less). Its gonna take a better package than Stafford and Sekera.


Yeah but he also signed Krejci BEFORE he found himself in cap hell. Just because he signed him with the intention of holding on to him does not mean the circumstances haven't changed, because they have. Im pretty sure Chiarelli was NOT expecting the #2 overall pick when he let Kessel go and lets not forget Toronto 1st rounder NEXT year too. Kerjci became expendable when they drafted Seguin and everyone knows it. Now that doesn't mean a package of Sekera and Stafford will work but it seems a lot more feasible now than it did 3 months ago.

Chiarelli knew he could only sign one of the two. He chose Krejci and traded Kessel knowing he'd get a top 10 pick from TO(Chiarelli actually said that). If anyone became expendable its Savard. Higher cap hit, longer term, and older in age. Krejci isn't leaving beantown anytime soon boys. Just because they drafted Seguin doesn't mean they are gonna trade away one of their top 3 centers. Seguin has already stated he will play LW if need be.

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