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Squanto
 Post subject: Re: Jochen Hecht
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Meh, fuck it. Do whatever you want.


That doesn't sound very mod-ish of you :o

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So file a complaint with XC.

I've got one board full of people who think I punch babies for fun, and another one with people who think I'm on a 'power trip' because I don't want people to get pissed off and leave (again) because people call their opinions stupid.

To say that I'm a little burned out and sick of the shit is an understatement.


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So file a complaint with XC.

I've got one board full of people who think I punch babies for fun, and another one with people who think I'm on a 'power trip' because I don't want people to get pissed off and leave (again) because people call their opinions stupid.

To say that I'm a little burned out and sick of the shit is an understatement.


It's just the internet!

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Squanto wrote:
So file a complaint with XC.

I've got one board full of people who think I punch babies for fun, and another one with people who think I'm on a 'power trip' because I don't want people to get pissed off and leave (again) because people call their opinions stupid.

To say that I'm a little burned out and sick of the shit is an understatement.


:? I apologize for angering you.

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Well, Tom, you could just go punch babies to relieve some stress. I mean...

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Squanto constantly gets bashed for trying to keep things civil.

Good intentions are always there.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Such is the life of a mod on SabresJunkie.

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Squanto is the epitome of what a good mod is and does, consistant and rational, not a pushover and not a dick. Great balance. I think you do a freaking bang-up job senor squantolotapus, and those drunkies can go suck a nut.


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 Post subject: Re: Jochen Hecht
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I love how everyone was bitching about Jochen Hecht, and that they wanted Darcy to trade him and shit. Now, I haven't heard one person complain about Hecht. :)

Last season was one of his better with goals at 21, but 42 points is nothing to write home about.
He is a solid 3rd line LWer with a very good 2 way game. Nieds him and Grier will look good together on that line.

If Darcy had picked up Mathew Lombardi as a UFA instead of signing Nieds, there may have been more offensive production from that line as well, but thats merely my opinion.

Hecht back on the wing with Connolly and Pomminville doesn't do a whole lot to improve the offensive output of that line given that Hecht's historical numbers show no signs of jumping anymore than 10 points, if that.
If Ruff attempts the Stafford experiment at RW again with Vanek and Roy, I fully expect to see Ennis on the LW of Connolly and Pomminville, atleast to start the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Jochen Hecht
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slesh wrote:
sabres1996 wrote:
I love how everyone was bitching about Jochen Hecht, and that they wanted Darcy to trade him and shit. Now, I haven't heard one person complain about Hecht. :)

Last season was one of his better with goals at 21, but 42 points is nothing to write home about.
He is a solid 3rd line LWer with a very good 2 way game. Nieds him and Grier will look good together on that line.

If Darcy had picked up Mathew Lombardi as a UFA instead of signing Nieds, there may have been more offensive production from that line as well, but thats merely my opinion.

Hecht back on the wing with Connolly and Pomminville doesn't do a whole lot to improve the offensive output of that line given that Hecht's historical numbers show no signs of jumping anymore than 10 points, if that.
If Ruff attempts the Stafford experiment at RW again with Vanek and Roy, I fully expect to see Ennis on the LW of Connolly and Pomminville, atleast to start the season.

You have to consider how potent the Hecht-Connolly-Pominville was last season. It would be wise for Lindy to try that again to start the season. Then move Vanek to RW and put Ennis on the LW with him and Roy. Stafford can play RW on the 3rd line if Grier is willing to move to LW (or the other way around) with Nieds centering. Then the McCormick-Goose-Kaleta fourth line.

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There's a reason Tom and Ed have a long moderation tenure. They deserve all the props we can give 'em.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Squanto constantly gets bashed for trying to keep things civil.

Good intentions are always there.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Such is the life of a mod on SabresJunkie.


And an NHL referee.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:50 pm 
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slesh wrote:
sabres1996 wrote:
I love how everyone was bitching about Jochen Hecht, and that they wanted Darcy to trade him and shit. Now, I haven't heard one person complain about Hecht. :)

Last season was one of his better with goals at 21, but 42 points is nothing to write home about.
He is a solid 3rd line LWer with a very good 2 way game. Nieds him and Grier will look good together on that line.

If Darcy had picked up Mathew Lombardi as a UFA instead of signing Nieds, there may have been more offensive production from that line as well, but thats merely my opinion.

Hecht back on the wing with Connolly and Pomminville doesn't do a whole lot to improve the offensive output of that line given that Hecht's historical numbers show no signs of jumping anymore than 10 points, if that.
If Ruff attempts the Stafford experiment at RW again with Vanek and Roy, I fully expect to see Ennis on the LW of Connolly and Pomminville, atleast to start the season.


Saying it repeatedly doesn't make it true. Based on pps, Hecht breaks into the top six on all but seven teams. Probably every team except Washington would add him to their top six in a heartbeat.

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slesh wrote:
sabres1996 wrote:
I love how everyone was bitching about Jochen Hecht, and that they wanted Darcy to trade him and shit. Now, I haven't heard one person complain about Hecht. :)

Last season was one of his better with goals at 21, but 42 points is nothing to write home about.
He is a solid 3rd line LWer with a very good 2 way game. Nieds him and Grier will look good together on that line.

If Darcy had picked up Mathew Lombardi as a UFA instead of signing Nieds, there may have been more offensive production from that line as well, but thats merely my opinion.

Hecht back on the wing with Connolly and Pomminville doesn't do a whole lot to improve the offensive output of that line given that Hecht's historical numbers show no signs of jumping anymore than 10 points, if that.
If Ruff attempts the Stafford experiment at RW again with Vanek and Roy, I fully expect to see Ennis on the LW of Connolly and Pomminville, atleast to start the season.


Saying it repeatedly doesn't make it true. Based on pps, Hecht breaks into the top six on all but seven teams. Probably every team except Washington would add him to their top six in a heartbeat.

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What kind of comment is this?
Stating my opinion doesn't make it true? You have your view (which is pure opinion as well by the way) and I have mine. I would like to see a Stanley Cup in Buffalo, Hecht isn't a part of the core top 6 that can get it done, and so far, thats been a fact. Prove me wrong. Show me the Championship Banner in HSBC Arena. You can't.

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only 1 in 30 teams wins the stanley cup each year. so its not like hecht himself is preventing that goal from being obtained. hecht is a 2.5 liner. too good for the third line, not good enough for the second line. hes a wonderful asset to have on the third line; a forward who can play defense while not missing a beat offensively.

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I remember a few people who were wait and see on Hecht.


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only 1 in 30 teams wins the stanley cup each year. so its not like hecht himself is preventing that goal from being obtained. hecht is a 2.5 liner. too good for the third line, not good enough for the second line. hes a wonderful asset to have on the third line; a forward who can play defense while not missing a beat offensively.

I think the larger poin I was trying to get across there irony was that its merely an opinion based on the success rate of the lineup, success equaling a Stanley Cup.
I don't dislike Hecht in the least bit and feel he is a very good asset for the 3rd line. I feel as though there is talent out there whether it be Ennis (if it must) or another that can capitalize on the talents of Connolly and Pomminville in more consistatn fashion, leading to 55+ points on the LW of that line.

And yes, he would be an excellent component on an additional scoring line, as I stated in my original post, I was hoping for someone like Lombardi to be brought in at center for that line.

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Which is true, but what about John Madden for the Chicago Blackhawks last year. He was one of their main PK'ers, and helped that team out more then some may think.

Hecht is one of our main PK'ers, and we surely missed him during the playoffs last year.

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slesh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
slesh wrote:
sabres1996 wrote:
I love how everyone was bitching about Jochen Hecht, and that they wanted Darcy to trade him and shit. Now, I haven't heard one person complain about Hecht. :)

Last season was one of his better with goals at 21, but 42 points is nothing to write home about.
He is a solid 3rd line LWer with a very good 2 way game. Nieds him and Grier will look good together on that line.

If Darcy had picked up Mathew Lombardi as a UFA instead of signing Nieds, there may have been more offensive production from that line as well, but thats merely my opinion.

Hecht back on the wing with Connolly and Pomminville doesn't do a whole lot to improve the offensive output of that line given that Hecht's historical numbers show no signs of jumping anymore than 10 points, if that.
If Ruff attempts the Stafford experiment at RW again with Vanek and Roy, I fully expect to see Ennis on the LW of Connolly and Pomminville, atleast to start the season.


Saying it repeatedly doesn't make it true. Based on pps, Hecht breaks into the top six on all but seven teams. Probably every team except Washington would add him to their top six in a heartbeat.

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What kind of comment is this?
Stating my opinion doesn't make it true? You have your view (which is pure opinion as well by the way) and I have mine. I would like to see a Stanley Cup in Buffalo, Hecht isn't a part of the core top 6 that can get it done, and so far, thats been a fact. Prove me wrong. Show me the Championship Banner in HSBC Arena. You can't.


My "opinion" is based on the fact that Hecht has a higher ppg (that's points per game) than at least one of the top six of 23 of 30 teams. (And several on most).

Just so we're clear on this, having a higher ppg than at least one of the top six on 23 of 30 NHL teams makes you a third line player? Say what?

Riddle me this, how many players outside the top six on the 30 nhl teams potted 20+ goals last year. Actually, give me a half hour, I'll answer that too.

Show me the championship banner in the Verizon Center? You can't. A.O...third liner! Get better logic.

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