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 Post subject: Discovering Life
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:39 pm 
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I was just taking a break from some school work and got to thinking about what would happen if we found concrete evidence of life on another planet or a moon. I'm not talking about aliens with space ships or ray guns but simply single celled organisms. It would prove that we aren't alone in the universe in the terms of life, strengthen the theory that more complex life exists somewhere out in the distances of space and force us all to reflect deeply about our place in the grand scheme of things. Would we humans gain a healthier perspective as to our differences? Would we stop fighting? How would religion or spirituality change? How would our perceptions of our own history change?

I thought I'd share with you guys and see what you think would change, if anything. So, what would happen if we found life out there? :think:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Depends on who comes forward with the discovery.

Scientists - prizes and medals.
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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Depends on who comes forward with the discovery.

Scientists - prizes and medals.
Normal dude - loony bin


Haha! I was going for more of an overall change once it was proven and established by the pros.

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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:47 pm 
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i think they already have found bacteria and such in space. whether or not it was still alive or fossilized doesnt change the fact that its there.

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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
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From what I have read there are heavy debates on whether those were fossils or naturally occuring formations. I'm talking about no questions asked kind of proof. No debates. No maybe about it proof of life outside of our planet.

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There is life, no doubt about it, but I don't think anything will change anything when we do finally find it. Churches would say that God put them there to test the faith of their followers. Unless it is something that we can talk too though, I don't think it would change to much. There would be some changes, like in school books, but we'd still be on schedule as normal. We're already looking for life, so when we do find it its not really gonna be a change of pace, we'll just keep looking for more.

From all the documentaries I watch and articles I read, their hypotheses make it seem that we're on the brink of discovery with so many viable places for life to start. Hell, the new hypothesis for life on Earth suggested that it came from a comet that hit us and we were in the proper place in the solar system for it to take off like it did. There are other places in the solar system that could support it, such as Europa or Titan, not to mention the whole vast and unfathomable universe out there. There has to be life. For every grain of sand on Earth there are more stars in the universe, so you try and tell me that at least one of those has a solar system that has at least one planet or satellite that isn't supporting life, and I'd say you're crazy.

Anyway, as I stated, my thought is no, not much would change unless we meet an intelligent ET life form.

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Also, life doesn't necessarily have to be carbon based. It could also be, say, Silicon which widens the horizons even more for the idea of life outside of Earth.

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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
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I would hope that once we find a life form that shows for certain that we're not the only life in the universe (and I believe with out a doubt that there is life out there) people would start to let go of their ethnocentric ideas and ideals.

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It's an interesting question.

I'm going to make a few assumptions, that it's life, present tense, and not simply evidence of life, and that it is universally reported and believed.

I'm not sure much would change. It seems like it would kind of be like discovering a new island...just really far away.

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Read The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton....it's ALL ABOUT this (it's a fiction novel, but he's got a LOT of real scientific data and processes incorporated).

If we find life somewhere else, I think NASA might just get a little bit more money...

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Displaced Fan wrote:
I was just taking a break from some school work and got to thinking about what would happen if we found concrete evidence of life on another planet or a moon. I'm not talking about aliens with space ships or ray guns but simply single celled organisms. It would prove that we aren't alone in the universe in the terms of life, strengthen the theory that more complex life exists somewhere out in the distances of space and force us all to reflect deeply about our place in the grand scheme of things. Would we humans gain a healthier perspective as to our differences? Would we stop fighting? How would religion or spirituality change? How would our perceptions of our own history change?

I thought I'd share with you guys and see what you think would change, if anything. So, what would happen if we found life out there? :think:


Do you ever watch the Wonders of the Solar System on the Science Channel? There was a new episode on last night, about discovery alien life in space. There is a moon out there (Utophia?? I forgot the name already) which is believed to be covered in salt water. The entire moon is a 600 mile deep ocean, and it is trapped inside in a thick layer of ice. It also has red lines throughout the outer shell.

In Iceland, scientist have discovered that organisms LIVE IN ICE. That's right, right here on earth things live and reproduce themselves inside of ice. The red lines could easily be the waste remnants of living things from the moons inhabitants.

In my opinion, I 100% guaranteed that life exists underneath Mars surface and on that ice moon too. In that show they show you things that survive on earth under tougher conditions then a lot of the planets and moons around us. It's just a matter of time, and if I'm not mistaken didn't they already find some remnants of life on Mars like 15 years ago? I vaguely remember something about something.

Anyways, to answer your question I'll smile and sip my coffee, then I'll say "fuck yeah, this is so awesome" then take another sip of coffee. Then poop. Then go to work.

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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
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hahaha...I was actually watching that episode when I wrote my first post

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Also, life doesn't necessarily have to be carbon based. It could also be, say, Silicon which widens the horizons even more for the idea of life outside of Earth.

I agree. I always cringe when I hear scientists say that you have to have water to have life. It seems to me that you would just need some sort of liquid flowing through the organism in order to transport nutrients. Why can’t that be liquid methane in an organism with a silicon based body?

In spite of this, I would rather that we discover carbon-based life forms that depend on water, because that’s probably the only kind of alien life form that WE CAN EAT!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Discovering Life
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BS1970 wrote:
Also, life doesn't necessarily have to be carbon based. It could also be, say, Silicon which widens the horizons even more for the idea of life outside of Earth.

I agree. I always cringe when I hear scientists say that you have to have water to have life. It seems to me that you would just need some sort of liquid flowing through the organism in order to transport nutrients. Why can’t that be liquid methane in an organism with a silicon based body?

In spite of this, I would rather that we discover carbon-based life forms that depend on water, because that’s probably the only kind of alien life form that WE CAN EAT!!!


OMG dude, Mars sushi is gonna be OFF THE HOOOK!!!

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I think there can be life without what we considered an important factor. What if we're just one of many ways that something can run and exist?

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I had an interesting thought. Isolationism is usually the best political policy, so i guess contact is a bad thing. At some point we could find ourselves as adversaries(and over a few million milleniums or so, this is a strong possibility). Not trying to be negative, but contact has traditionally not ended well for one of the party's, historically speaking.


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I had an interesting thought. Isolationism is usually the best political policy, so i guess contact is a bad thing. At some point we could find ourselves as adversaries(and over a few million milleniums or so, this is a strong possibility). Not trying to be negative, but contact has traditionally not ended well for one of the party's, historically speaking.

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daz28 wrote:
Isolationism is usually the best political policy.


What about WW2?

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