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jvaccaro6
 Post subject: Re: Pommer's hit
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:37 pm 
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The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole situation is that, people are saying it's ok to play hockey like that. NO IT'S FUCKING NOT OK!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd of been equally as pissed if Kaleta, or even Vanek (My favorite player, and a guy I love and respect the shit out of) had done something like this. It's cowardly, and there is no room in a game for that. These guys haul ass around that ice at speeds of upwards toward 30MPH, imagine getting hit by a person moving at that speed...it would hurt. Now imagine having someone blast you into a wall in your home at those kind of speeds, and having your head smash of a window thats 3/4 inches thick.

Thats what happened. Hjalmarsson was at nearly full speed, and blew threw Pomminville and drove him face first into the glass. No doubt about it in my mind, this is a dirty hit, and anything less than 15 games is a disgrace by the NHL. Repeat offender or not, intent or not, you are responsible for everything you do on and off the ice. He made the decision to hit before the puck was even coming. It's clear from his strides he wasn't going to let up, he was going to plow through Pomminville. Look at where he is, at the start of the play, he's up toward the blue line, skating hard toward Pomminville, and has his eyes on the puck. He's made the decision to hit Pomminville while the puck is still on Roy's stick while he's battling in the corner.

No sir, this isn't an incident that is just a circumstantial body turn, this is deliberate intent to hit and drive a player into the boards. That by definition is boarding, and an automatic game misconduct. It was the right call on the ice, but now it's in the leagues hands, and I just hope Campbell and his team assess the proper suspension. Pomminville will miss atleast 3 games in the next 7 days; so at the very least 3 games is deserved, and I say 15 is the proper punishment. Make an example out of this incident. There is no place in the sport for this, and there is no excuse. His intent was to drive Pomminville in the boards, was it intent to injure? Maybe, but the intent was to board him, and that alone is a penalty and cowardly.

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maybe that's how they teach you to play hockey in sweden?

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 Post subject: Re: Pommer's hit
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
maybe that's how they teach you to play hockey in sweden?



If I remember right, it's illegal to initiate contact with the head in all European leagues, and in any international play. Why hasn't the NHL adopted this rule? Simple, we like to pretend it's a league of intensity. But time after time, there are just scum bag players and cheapshots to the head. The only difference is, people don't always get seriously injured, or the helmets they wear protect them from a lot of the collision. Either way, if the NHL adopted the no contact with the head rule I'd be happy as hell.

Fuck even the barbarian league that is the NFL has made it illegal to deliver head hunting blows. The NHL still allows it, because of the fucking trashy fan base and people complain "hitting would be taken out of the game". I find that a bullshit argument, because if 6'7 Tyler Myers can blow a player up who is 10 inches shorter than him(like he did last night) with a clean hit with his hands into the dudes chest, then anyone is capable of doing it. It's a matter of taking responsibility and thinking about your actions. Thats too hard for some of these meat heads, and others of them just do it because it's not a penalty.

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I would love to see the NHL suspend Hjalmarsson for an excessive amount of time to send a message around the league that these kind of hits are NOT OK and WILL NOT be tolerated no matter what, even if there was no intent to injure or if the player doesn't have a track record of being dirty. It shouldn't matter.

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That was not a shoulder on shoulder hit on any day of the week. There is no reason for someone to hit someone from behind like that...ever.

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Its simple.... on an illegal hit, such as the hit on Pommers, clearly, illegal, Pommenville did not touch the puck and his back was to the player... an anticipatory hit to the back of the player. The penalty should be the length of time Pomminville is out plus 4 games... now if the player has a history of these types of hits that 4 games can be added on to.

But it should be clear cut! Black and White! You injure a player on an illegal hit, your not allowed to play until the player you injured comes back, plus 4 games... I dont care who you are...

thats the problem with this league, they don't want to make any rules like this black and white so they can maybe be more lenient toward certain players... which is complete bull shit... some one is going to seriously get hurt! Pommers hit could have easily ended his career...

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fly as hale wrote:
I would love to see the NHL suspend Hjalmarsson for an excessive amount of time to send a message around the league that these kind of hits are NOT OK and WILL NOT be tolerated no matter what, even if there was no intent to injure or if the player doesn't have a track record of being dirty. It shouldn't matter.



thats the problem, it does matter... not track record or intent but who you are... they may smack Hjalmarsson with an excessive suspension... but as soon as ovie does it, it will be a smack on the wrist... it should be a black and white call.... you injure some one on an illegal hit... your penalty is X... we can debate X... but it should be set in stone... not this well we will have a conference call and gauge the players intent and track record and how important he is to the team and then we will decide what the suspension should be.

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OV got suspended plenty of times last year. He missed a total of ten games from suspensions last year.

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OV got suspended plenty of times last year. He missed a total of ten games from suspensions last year.

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 Post subject: Re: Pommer's hit
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:14 pm 
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
OV got suspended plenty of times last year. He missed a total of ten games from suspensions last year.


but were the suspensions strong enough for the offense... or did the league take it a little easier on him because of his status....


how many games did he get for this? ...... 2..... how many games did campbell miss?



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All of the Chicago fans think RJ is biased? How fucking ironic.


Fuuuuuuck that! Watching the Chicago feed I had to listen to those 2 clowns going on and on about how Hjamal.....'s hit wasn't really that bad. Fuckers...

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 Post subject: Re: Pommer's hit
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:26 pm 
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2 Games is all Hjalmarsson got; NHL doing this to keep him alive the rest of the year, as he will be held out against Buffalo Saturday

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 Post subject: Re: Pommer's hit
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Well I misread the Hawks Schedule, he will be back in against Buffalo on Saturday, loses games against Nashville and Columbus

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Well I misread the Hawks Schedule, he will be back in against Buffalo on Saturday, loses games against Nashville and Columbus


well its consistent to what Ovi got for the shove on Campbell.... still doesn't seem stiff enough for the offense... there is no place for these hits in the game... and we still don't know how long Pommers will be out....

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Well here's my issue. Saturday night, what happens if one of our guys runs one of their top 3 forwards? And then he gets 10 games for retaliation. It's setting the dangerous precedent. That precedent is strike first; and hope another team retaliates, because they will be the team getting the bigger suspension.

Or if it's only 2 games for a cheap shot like that, what if someone like Clutterbuck decides to take a run at a star like Zetterberg or someone along those lines, and injures them with a concussion that ends their season. Clutterbuck gets 2 games, and that team has to play without their star for the rest of the season. Clutterbuck isn't a multiple offender either, but he hits like train, and has the power to do a shit ton of damage.

It's a thin line, and the NHL has already set the precedent that first time offenders only get 2 games for hits like the one on Pomminville last night.

I worry for the safety of the players with the NHL handing out such weak suspensions.

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