Thats your opinion, my happens to differ from yours.
You dangle a contract and talent like Roy with, lets say Stafford and Connolly.
You take Ryan and Blake, a combined 9.1 mil. They would only be adding 1.3 mil in payroll, and they currently have 3.374 mil in cap space. So it would look like this:

To BUF
Bobby Ryan (5.1 Mil)
Jason Blake (4 Mil) for 2 seasons.
1st rd pick 2011
2rd pick 2012

To ANA
Derek Roy (4 Mil)
Tim Connolly (4.5 Mil) with the option to resign or let go at end of season.
Drew Stafford (1.9 Mil) Same as Connolly.

Both teams have the payroll space. Blake is a salary dump, as Connolly is.

The addition of Connolly and Stafford would put the Ducks in immediate Cup contention.

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was that the whole "we don't do contracts in mid season" crap?....

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I think the Sabres are tanking to get a top 5 pick. They want the next Steven Stamkos.

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But we now need two centers, unless you move Ennis up to the first line, and you would then need to bring up Adam for the second or first line center, and he's not ready yet.

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They would not give up Ryan (who they just signed to a 5 year deal, AND give up 2 draft picks, AND take on salary in return for Roy / TC (UFA) / Helen Keller (RFA) . No GM in the world would take that deal. They're giving up a TON in your proposed deal.

We would also need to proceed to get more centers with that proposed deal.

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Whoops, let me copy and paste an edit here Squanto, and good catch.

To BUF
Bobby Ryan (5.1 Mil)
Jason Blake (4 Mil) for 2 seasons.

To ANA
Derek Roy (4 Mil)
Tim Connolly (4.5 Mil) with the option to resign or let go at end of season.
Drew Stafford (1.9 Mil) Same as Connolly.
1st rd pick 2011
2rd pick 2012

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Nothing is gonna happen so arguing won't help. Darcy and Quinn won't make any moves and Ruff ain't gonna go anywhere. We'll be bitching this way next year....and the next....and the next......

A Cup team anytime soon just isn't in the deal.

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That's still too much to give up. I would not do that for those two players. Especially when we get two wingers for two centers.

I want to know how you propose to solve the immediate lack of all center depth from that trade. No way Goose is a first line center and no way Niedermayer is either.

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I see it totally different. Bobby, Perry and Getz all have the combination of speed, quickness, agility, and hands. They are truly rare players, and I have no clue how 1 team got them all.

So, if Roy is your bait, the Ducks would be giving up their 1st line LW to get a 2nd/3rd line center (Roy would play behind Getzlaf for sure, and maybe Koivu). AND take on salary.

In return, Buffalo loses both centers that could possibly play with Vanek, as well as two valuable draft picks.

Still doesn't really work for either side.

Can't debate anymore tonight, have to hit the sack. Curling tourney in the morning.

Cue why you'd start Roy over Getzlaf comment. Haha

Its a rebuild.

You sign your centers or bring them up. (Adam comes to mind)
You have to give to get. Is my proposal perfect? No, its merely an example of offering something the other GM cannot refuse due to variables from their end.

The Ducks are in a much better position to make a run at the cup now than Buffalo is.
Is my offer to much? Perhaps, but offering components that equate out to success "now" for thier organization is the key.

And as I have stated, Bobby Ryan is an example. I would like someone, anyone, to start a thread that lists the names of gifted players to rebuild around. And remember, we don't want to give up our stable of future talent.
I.E., Kassian, Ennis, Myers, Adam and Enroth.

Bare in mind, I am looking 2 seasons down the road for exciting hockey that competes.

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Roy has 13 points good for a tie of 4th in the league. Getzlaf has 13 points good for a tie in 4th in the league.

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Only thing is with your rebuild, you lose two draft picks if that is what you would want to propse, and that is not how you need to rebuild the team. You lose a 1st when you want to rebuild there goes a top 5 draft pick if you are serious about a full blown rebuild mode.

And the only way we could be serious about a full blown rebuild is to send Miller packing. With him we are too good to go that route. And I don't want to see Miller gone.

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Clear your mind of any names I have mentioned Sky, focus on what you believe to be reasonable talent to bring in. Don't use my examples. Thats why I am here, to hear your opinion on what talent is out there and what line combos you would like to put together (bare in mind, for me, its all 4 lines).

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Haha, the difference is, you push Roy, you get a diving ballerina. You push Getz, you get the incredible hulk for the remainder of the game.

I know slesh, I would love to bring in a RW for Vanek and Roy still, I honestly would, but the best ones were all drafted basically by the teams they play for right now.

I'm not sure I'd want to give up a huge amount for a guy to only go into rebuild mode. I honestly would still tweak this roster with enough to give them a good shot. And I think the biggest tweaking needs to be in the practice. Bag skate the team when they aren't pulling their weight. Also keep line combos pretty solid. And when Pominville and Gerbe come back, take that ice time away.

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I wonder what the stats are for V-Roy-Pomm are?? The line has no balls for sure, but neither did RAV. Why does our coach insist this chemistry is awful? Just throwing this out there, this is not a coach bash.

Edit: I guess it's because Hecht-Connolly-Staff sounds awful. I might likke Eniis-Connolly-Stafford, though. I'd give Drew a shot with 2 play-makers, to test his touch. Why not. It's not like the old, tired lines are working.

Roy and Pominville had chemistry in Rochester, why we haven't seen it much in the NHL level I don't know?

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