I haven't seen very much of it other than Stewart's speech since I was out throwing some discsa on the course but I was wondering what you guys thought about it. Here's a bit of his speech:

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He was one of those politico-pundit-perpetual-panic-conflictinators up until 2008. He's just another TV talker that will cling to a side no matter how partisan. I don't believe that people like that necessarily make solving problems that much harder, as he says. I think our political system has been corrupted for decades by money and power mongers on all sides of the political spectrum. It's a reflection on our society, and we don't deserve better until we take the future of our country as seriously as those who settled and founded it. What we have, and will see for some time, is a very typical result of fat-cat apathy. Once our economy goes in the ditch and we flirt with becoming a 2nd world nation, people will start to take politics seriously and vote out corruption or take it down by force. With any luck the terms "democrat" and "republican" will fall into the trash bin of history.

No he wasn't.

Stewart has skewered both sides of the political spectrum for years. He's also been pointing out how the 24 hour media and never ending punditry is divisive and damaging for YEARS. He singlehandedly got a 23 year old pundit echo chamber program canceled by making an appearance to show the absurdity of it all.

Let's not pretend that Stewart is non-partisan. Certainly he's being hypocritical after being one of the most well known commentators to hurl cheap insults at the president on The Daily Show. For all I know he's thrown a few at Obama, but just hasn't had enough time to match eight years of Bush bashing. Either way, that brand of commentary is damaging and devisive, just the same as Olbermann and Limbaugh, etc.

Stewart picked on Bush when he did stupid shit.

Stewart picks on Obama when he does stupid shit. (If you would actually watch the show instead of jumping to a foregone conclusion, you'd know this.)

Stewart picks on media outlets when they do stupid shit.

He picks on the left. He picks on the right. He picks on the center. He points out when politicians and the media talk out of both sides of their mouths. He points out the absurdities in the hyper-partisan-ness that has invaded our culture.

If showing us what is being said because the 'news' outlets won't is damaging, I'll take it. You clearly have a slanted opinion of the show and the man. He's a fucking comic that does a better job talking about events in our country than the mother fuckers who claim to be reporters.

"If you would actually watch the show..."

I did watch the show for a long time, and I got tired of his style.

http://www.mustsharejokes.com/page/Jon+ ... ge+W.+Bush

This stuff doesn't help at all. He's clearly on the left, and that's fine, but his material shows it, so he can't claim moral authority on this topic.

Seen earlier today:

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From Yahoo...

"Jon Stewart made the case for sanity; Stephen Colbert argued for fear. And for most of Saturday's joint rally, the Comedy Central hosts played their parts—the reasonable, liberal talk show host and faux right-wing cable news blowhard. It seemed like an extended live version of "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report."

Yahoo, a liberal source, had no problems describing this show as a routine of good liberal vs bad right-winger. Sheryl Crow performed as well...lol. Enough said.

did you watch any of the rally? any speech?

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FUCKING STOP IT. THIS IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE LIBERAL VS CONSERVATIVE WITH NO GREY AREA IN BETWEEN?

I'm so sick and tired of it.

"FUCKING STOP IT"??? Wow, you're the one in caps lock, not me. Those aren't my words. I simply posted what Yahoo wrote about it. If you're so sick and tired of it go complain to Yahoo. What gets you so worked up around here, or with me in particular? I really don't get it. I don't take a long time comedian turned psuedo political commentator, that's made a decade long career of taking cheap shots at a president to boost his career, seriously when he speaks about how the media should be less divisive. Is this really something worth you getting cranky about? I should be the one to say, "FUCKING STOP IT", because I can't come in here and type without you getting pissy with me. DP, Yankee, and a few others and I have had differences before but you can see us chatting away in near harmony. Why not you?

DP, I didn't have time to watch it, but I read parts of his speech at the end. Sure he has reasonable things to say, but as I said earlier, after many years of taking cheap shots at the president (which are divisive and incendiary to many) he can't expect to have actual moral authority on the behavior of media, other than from his core audience and fan base. With a main part of the show being Colbert's character (mocking right-wingers), there's really no possibility of claiming non-partisanship.

The media once was a reliable source of unbiased news. This is not the case anymore.
Politics used to be a debate on what politicians would do for you. Instead it's what the _OTHER_ politician is doing _AGAINST_ you.
Colbert and Stewert are comedians, comedians bring out the stupidity in _EVERYTHING_ they see and make it comical. To me, the comical side of it is the raw stupidity of ALL sides of the government that the comedians bring out.

The whole game of politics has become a challenge to see who can lie to you the best and make you believe it the most. It's fickle individuals who politicians prey on, and it's also uneducated individuals who politicians prey on (because some people just don't know better). This rally was basically to gather the group of people who aren't fickle and are smart enough to know better to just have a fun time and forget about politics. Thats why there were performances by groups, and not just a long ass speech.

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Maddow - Stewart 12?

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The political system itself is broken in this nation. It has been ever since the general public (voting citizens) gave a green light or "thumbs up" if you will, to the 2 party system.

History is worth noting here. The founding fathers never intended for thier to be political parties and many of them railed against them. The reason is very simple, once you go into a camp or party if you will, you immediately narrow your view on the issues to one set of ideals.

Thats not good for the country as a whole. How can you look to solve problems if your unwavering in your view on a particular issue and refuse to bend, or compromise to find solutions? You can't, its that simple.

This has been coming for years and years, and its cyclical in nature as we can point back to other times in our nations history where the 2 party system has created gridlock.

"The only ones who suffer are the citizens of this nation. We are responsible for this mess, we are the government."

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You know what your words are? "a liberal source". Did that need to be injected?

I'm sick and tired of exactly this crap. Yahoo posts an article that leans left, and all of a sudden they're 'a liberal source'. Really? Because there's never been a conservative leaning article anywhere on Yahoo?

It's the auto-classification and polarity of everything that drives me nuts. Everyone (and everything) MUST be dumped into two buckets: Left or right. There's no middle ground anymore. Thats what I meant when I said FUCKING STOP IT. And that's the point that Stewart was trying to make.

Of course, you're too busy bitching that Stewart took shots at G-Dubs to understand what I'm saying. If you'd watch his damn show, he takes shots at Obama too. He's made a career out of taking cheap shots at EVERY part of the political spectrum. Not just Republicans. Not just Democrats. EVERYBODY. Politicians, the media, everyone.

The Daily show went on the air in 1999 right? Who else was he supposed to take shots at?

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Stewart took over for Kilborn in 1999.

Gee whiz...as an internet dinosaur, Yahoo is still my home page and email site. I read it every day, so I know that it is left leaning. Did I say "liberal" with any animosity what-so-ever? No. I mentioned that becuase a right leaning source would naturally be held in contempt or be characterized as unfairly critical of Stewart/Colbert. I'd much prefer to not have to refer to people or organizations as liberal or conservative, but for now that's the way many are so I won't ignore reality.

I'm not bitching about Stewart taking shots at Bush, I've said that since he made a career out of it he can't take the moral high ground now. There is nothing partisan or divisive about making that observation. FWIW, I was registered independant since I was old enough to vote up until 2000. I registered republican that year...in order to vote against Bush and for McCain in the primary. I am no fan of GW, I'm only pointing out that Stewart is being hypocritical given his career path. I've supported my point fairly well and you haven't responded to any of those points except to yell, "FUCKING STOP IT" at me. I said I didn't get it before, but now that I notice your sig, it seems that you have more allegience to Stewart than you thought I had for Bush.

My sig is that because I find the point he's making to be very relevant to the current state of our media. It isn't some allegiance to the man.

You also haven't addressed any of my points either, so get the fuck off your high and mighty horse. You're acting like Stewart is a new anchor that has made shit up for years, and is all of a sudden speaking out against such things.

He's a fucking comedian. He makes fun of people who do stupid shit. Period.

I really have no interest in anything more you have to say. I can have reasonable discussions with Ed, even though we're pretty large opposites on the political spectrum. You're impossible to talk to, and frankly an arrogant piece of shit.

I think when you post it here it goes from Yahoo's fault to yours for sharing. Just saying.



If you have watched him for as long as I have you would know that he does have liberal leanings but beyond that he takes shots at EVERYONE. His whole point is that we can disagree without going to extremes. Like he said while promoting the Rally: "I don't agree with your policies but I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler."

I think you're characterizing him based on what you have heard and it just doesn't pan out. I mean, did he roast Buch every chance he got...yup. He does that with Obama every night too. Constantly making jokes about the Dems being limp dicked and idiotic right along with jabbing at any shenanigans regardless of blue and red.

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