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shedoesntgetit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:42 pm 
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Yeah, Rej needs to stay on D, IMO. Bring up Adam and Mancari (is an emergency Kassian call-up possible?)



i don't think so. i'm pretty sure the only way we can actually do that is if portland was down to a minimum roster, or if there was no way to get any of them in time for the game.


Negative.

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(ii) Emergency conditions shall be
established when the playing strength of the loaning Club, by
reason of incapacitating injury or illness or by League
suspension to its players is reduced below the level of two (2)
goalkeepers, six (6) defensemen and twelve (12) forwards.
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of the existence of the emergency conditions including the
incapacity shall be furnished to the Commissioner of the League
upon request made by him.


When a player is called up on an emergency basis, they also must specify what player he's coming up for, and must be returned once that player is healthy.

HYPOTHETICAL:

Luke Adam called up on emergency recall for Tim Connolly. As soon as Connolly's vag heals, Adam must be returned OR his recall may be converted to a standard recall.

(There are reasons you wouldn't want a standard recall, but not something that needs to be gone into now. )


oh ok. gotcha. i had thought that there was bit more to it if buffalo DID want to call kassian from juniors, though?


also, connolly's vagina is never going to heal. he should have just went to thailand to get it done.


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Nobody is assuming he the next big thing. But he does put up numbers in Portland and how can you actually say he has had a fair shot when how many games has he played with Buffalo. That's hardly any time to adjust to the speed. Kennedy had more time than Mancari. I could see if he had a full season with Buffalo and didn't get better but the guy has only played a handfull of games each year.


Marc Mancari has had the opportunity to make the Sabres every year since the lockout. He hasn't been able to beat out anyone in camp. When he's been called up, he hasn't shown anything to earn himself another callup.

If the Sabres thought Kennedy wasn't good enough to keep around, and Mancari couldn't beat him out, what makes you think he's good enough now?

You win your roster spot in one of two ways.

1. Beat out the guy in front of you in camp.
2. Play so well on a callup they can't send you down.

Mancari has had chances at both, and done neither.


All I'm saying is some players take more time to adjust to a faster level than what they are use to.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:51 pm 
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I happen to agree with SabresBillsFan on this one.
Let Mancari come up. He looks like a good 3rd line RWer to me. Hell, he can't be any worse than Grier has shown this season.

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Whoa. Who the fuck said anything about Grier? Talk about coming out of left field...

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slesh wrote:
I happen to agree with SabresBillsFan on this one.
Let Mancari come up. He looks like a good 3rd line RWer to me. Hell, he can't be any worse than Grier has shown this season.


Mancari hasn't been able to break the 4th line 4 years running out of came. How did he magically become a 3rd line NHL player?


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S4 - sleshlund reports ;)

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NYIntensity wrote:
Whoa. Who the fuck said anything about Grier? Talk about coming out of left field...

:D

I'm an equal opportunity ranter.
I don't like to much on this current roster. So they all get the Slesh bannhammer :lol:

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S4 - sleshlund reports ;)

Ya, I miss my Ecklund generator. Since the install of the new OS I haven't had it. Have to go download it again. ;)

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But seriously, does Luke come up for Nieds? Will Miller be out long? Did connolly really ever have balls? This is like a bad soap opera.

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But seriously, does Luke come up for Nieds? Will Miller be out long? Did connolly really ever have balls? This is like a bad soap opera.

Which one of the players has the dummy on his lap? :o

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Idk, the way most of those players have been playing, is them not being in the lineup a big loss?

We'll find out I guess.

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slesh
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Idk, the way most of those players have been playing, is them not being in the lineup a big loss?

We'll find out I guess.

With Patrick O'Sullivan (25 yr old center that put up 53 points one season) on waivers if I'm Regier I claim him, he's on a 2 way, 600k 1 year contract. Couldn't hurt the Center depth none.

I'd like a trade for Penner from Edmonton as well. Send them a Stafford, Rivet, Butler and draft pick (2nd rounder) for him. They need defense anyways.

My line up:

Vanek-Roy-Penner
Ennis-Adam-Pomminville
Gerbe-O'Sullivan-Mancari
McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta
Ellis

Myers-Sekera
Leopold-Montador
Morrisonn-Weber
Gragnani

No Grier, Niedemayer, Connolly or Hecht, get rid of them.
Bring in some youth, inject some energy into this team. But thats just me.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:41 pm 
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slesh wrote:
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Idk, the way most of those players have been playing, is them not being in the lineup a big loss?

We'll find out I guess.

With Patrick O'Sullivan (25 yr old center that put up 53 points one season) on waivers if I'm Regier I claim him, he's on a 2 way, 600k 1 year contract. Couldn't hurt the Center depth none.

I'd like a trade for Penner from Edmonton as well. Send them a Stafford, Rivet, Butler and draft pick (2nd rounder) for him. They need defense anyways.

My line up:

Vanek-Roy-Penner
Ennis-Adam-Pomminville
Gerbe-O'Sullivan-Mancari
McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta
Ellis

Myers-Sekera
Leopold-Montador
Morrisonn-Weber
Gragnani

No Grier, Niedemayer, Connolly or Hecht, get rid of them.
Bring in some youth, inject some energy into this team. But thats just me.


I don't like this lineup. What's your obsession with Penner? He has scored +30 goals once in his career and doesn't use his body as he should. He is inconsistent and a rich man's Drew Stafford.

Mancari has a great shot. Unfortunately that's all and I have only seen 1 good game from him in a Sabres jersey (last season or 2 years ago, I'm not sure).

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I don't believe Mancari has been given a fair shake by the organization is all.
He hasn't been called up for any serious length of a time and when he played with Vanek and Roy he looked good.

I would like to see him for a 20 game stint or so on line 3 RW.

As for Penner, he may be available more than most RWer's this season and comes at a reasonable cap hit for his production at 4.25 mil for 2 seasons.

You may not like the lineup, but I do ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:54 pm 
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sabretoothpick wrote:
slesh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Idk, the way most of those players have been playing, is them not being in the lineup a big loss?

We'll find out I guess.

With Patrick O'Sullivan (25 yr old center that put up 53 points one season) on waivers if I'm Regier I claim him, he's on a 2 way, 600k 1 year contract. Couldn't hurt the Center depth none.

I'd like a trade for Penner from Edmonton as well. Send them a Stafford, Rivet, Butler and draft pick (2nd rounder) for him. They need defense anyways.

My line up:

Vanek-Roy-Penner
Ennis-Adam-Pomminville
Gerbe-O'Sullivan-Mancari
McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta
Ellis

Myers-Sekera
Leopold-Montador
Morrisonn-Weber
Gragnani

No Grier, Niedemayer, Connolly or Hecht, get rid of them.
Bring in some youth, inject some energy into this team. But thats just me.


I don't like this lineup. What's your obsession with Penner? He has scored +30 goals once in his career and doesn't use his body as he should. He is inconsistent and a rich man's Drew Stafford.

Mancari has a great shot. Unfortunately that's all and I have only seen 1 good game from him in a Sabres jersey (last season or 2 years ago, I'm not sure).


I would say more of a poor man's Thomas Vanek.

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slesh wrote:
I don't believe Mancari has been given a fair shake by the organization is all.
He hasn't been called up for any serious length of a time and when he played with Vanek and Roy he looked good.

I would like to see him for a 20 game stint or so on line 3 RW.


Didn't get a fair shake? He's had 4 training camps to try and get onto the NHL roster. He hasn't been able to beat out Kaleta, Kennedy, McCormick, Gerbe, Ellis, or Mair.

He's had his chances. He hasn't done enough to earn it.


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slesh wrote:
I don't believe Mancari has been given a fair shake by the organization is all.
He hasn't been called up for any serious length of a time and when he played with Vanek and Roy he looked good.

I would like to see him for a 20 game stint or so on line 3 RW.

As for Penner, he may be available more than most RWer's this season and comes at a reasonable cap hit for his production at 4.25 mil for 2 seasons.

You may not like the lineup, but I do ;)


In my opinion 4 camps and preseasons is a fair chance. If you put him on a line with Roy and Vanek now he would get some points, but who wouldn't?

I think Penner's production is a bit low for 4,25 mil. He had 60+ points last season and that was his career high. Granted, he never played on a decent team.

Mancari and Penner are both players who are not playing up to their potential and that's what I hate (Stafford and Connolly all over again).
It's just the opinion from another arm chair GM though ;)

EDIT: I didn't copy the 4 camps argument from Suanto. It just takes me forever to write a post :)

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I'm not convinced that O'Sullivan would be any upgrade over Niedermayer or Goose.

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