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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

You blamed him for taking a shot at the net, you're taught to roof the puck because it is the easiest to score a goal that way.

He took that corner because it's only the obvious corner to shoot at when you're on the circle or area he shot as it's a bigger target then the left side of the net.

Ennis happened to be pushed on accident and was a very unlucky break for us. And Adam is 20, this is his first ever year being a Pro. I know Tom said that, but look up facts on players before you assume things. Not all rookies can just jump from the AHL and start scoring in the NHL either. Most rookies don't rip the AHL up, then the next year rip apart the NHL.

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He doesn't blame Adam for taking the shot, anywhere. At the worst he's lamenting the fact he hit the 5 inch area that Ennis' stick occupied.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

That's blaming him for taking the shot where he did basically.

And he just scored the first goal tonight.

The only thing I couldn't believe was he was blaming him for that shot hitting Ennis' stick and how he didn't look up the fact he has only played in 14 NHL games so far this year.

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We can argue wording all we want, but when it comes right down to it, he never said flat out he blames Adam for taking a shot. He just blames his placement of said shot more then he blames Ennis for ending up there.

And I think Adam is a big kid, he's been firing shots at nets for most of his life, it's not like he started up yesterday. I bet 9/10 times he puts that shot with enough elevation to clear such a small barrier, he just didn't have it that time.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

It was a goal, but hit Ennis' stick, just unlucky that happened.

Nothing we can do about it now, Ennis' stick wasn't there when he took that shot in the first place, it just ended up there.

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Happy now Yankee?

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He doesn't have a hat trick yet. I think we need to just cut our losses, call him a bust and ship him off to the Island of Misfit Hockey Players AKA the New York Islanders.

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haha, dude, I will GLADLY eat some crow whenever necessary.

lets see, we make a thread about miller, he has a shutout.

I make a thread about Adam, he scores our GWG.

Someone should make a thread about Quinn, maybe his head will explode or something?

edit: Nevermind, i'm sick of this bullshit fighting.

Adam was the 3rd man in on the rush. Wasn't somebody posting about our depth on the rush recently? How they were all getting to the net at the same time and that's why we weren't scoring on our rebound chances?

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Wheelhouse

Enough you two.

It's not like you have 5 minutes to analyze your shot, work out angles, etc. Adam got the puck, shot, and beat the goaltender. That's all he can do.

The shot was clearly the correct one; it was going in the net. Only a fluke play prevented it. He's a left handed shot. From that spot on the ice, shooting quickly, it's going to end up where it did more often than not.

I'll be totally honest, saying that Adam 'ignored 75% open net' was a 'rookie mistake' is just plain false. It's not.

haha, man I was thinking the EXACT same thing when he popped that in. And it has been true, they've been approaching the net kind of strangely, all in a line, and then are basically too deep to deal with rebounds. On Adams goal it was so beautifully staggered/timed for a good rebound chance, they sort of swooped in there 1 2 3, affording multiple chances at the puck bouncing around in front of the net. Perfect.

Yeah, who was it that pointed that out the other day?

You'll be totally honest? Then be honest that what you just said IS YOUR OPINION. You simply cannot say 'its just plain false', that given more experience Luke wouldnt be able to calm himself, slow his mind and find the left side of the net which was totally open. That could equate to being a 'rookie mistake'.

Put Roy in the same situation and i'm feeling like he's going to bury it more times than not.

He had a lot of net to shoot at. He got excited and just tried to tap it in.

I'm pretty sure he'll try to get that puck in the air more often than not from now on because of that situation.

I'd call that a rookie mistake as well. But it was just as much of a tough break for the kid. But he learned.

Notice he elevated the backhand last night?

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Wheelhouse

No offense, but have you ever played the game?

Adam picked up a loose puck about 3' away from the top edge of the crease. His momentum was carrying him towards the goal line. The puck was away from his body, and he had to extend to reach it.

If he pulls the puck in and adjusts his body to the point where he can elevate the puck to the left side of the net, the goaltender gets over and has a good shot to make the save. Adam saw the goaltender down, and shot the puck instantly. That was the correct play, since he clearly beat the goaltender. Achieving any kind of accurate elevation on the puck with your arms extended is almost impossible.

I've never seen a player so roundly criticized for beating a goaltender clean. If Ennis' stick is one inch higher up it's a goal and nobody is even discussing this.

You've never seen a player criticized for not burying a puck into the wide open net?

He had the time, and room, to slam that thing home. He got excited and tapped it right along the ice, where it's easiest to prevent from going in.

It was shitty that Ennis's stick was there, but that kind of stuff happens in the game of hockey ALL THE TIME. Players dive across the goal line. He has to elevate that puck. Period.

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Wheelhouse

Agreed Squanto.

I will say however, I would really have liked Adam to stay in Portland for a full season, if for no other reason than to further hone his skill/talent as well as build his confidence while transitioning to the professional level. Not that he has done all that badly while up with the big club, I just don't want the kid to get in a position where he feels some pressure to perform due to the situation the club is in chasing the playoffs and all. Other wise, I have no complaints about the kids play, he is developing, only he gets to do it in his rookie season with the big club.

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Lord Stanley's Cup is what its all about.
Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

Yeah, when they miss.

Adam didn't miss.

I think most people would have liked to see Adam stay in the AHL for a bit. Unfortunately injuries happen, and he was forced up. Not much you can do about that.