There will certainly be a good number of first time iPhone users on Verizon that will add to market share. There will also be a good number of AT&T users who move to Verizon, and have zero net change in market share. It's not going to be massive.

Who cares about market share anyways? Certainly we shouldn't. Android is going to have market share leads for a long time now because you can get it on many different hardware platforms. If Android was only available on one handset model Apple would be murdering them.

heres hoping verizon releases their LTE handsets before that.

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Apparently the Verizon Iphone is going to have "relocated" buttons. Due to the antenna notch, the volume control buttons are pushed down slightly. This will result in most cases/bumpers not fitting the phone properly.

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"Love, love will tear us apart again"- Ian Curtis

gee, where have we seen that before

/I've got a motorola starmax saved in a closet for posterity...to remember the brief moment when Apple was open.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

This is correct.

hey look...it has full bars!

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Hold my beer and watch this...

Holy shit, that has to be worth some scratch.

Engadget for the win

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"Love, love will tear us apart again"- Ian Curtis

I don't know...I've just never been able to get rid of it. Solid box, all SCSI inside...built in Zip drive

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Hold my beer and watch this...

"He did let slip one important and intriguing detail of Apple's Verizon deal: It's not exclusive. That means the CDMA iPhone could eventually come to other carriers who also rely on CDMA networks, like Sprint."

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I have a couple questions.

This phone will only be 3G; thus, not using LTE? When Apple releases their new handset in June (like they always do), will Verizon not being seeing an iPhone 5?

Boyfriend will be considering iPhone 4 when he upgrades in April, although I think he'll stick with Android.

my understanding is this: they wanted this phone to be LTE enabled, BUT the LTE chip is so new, and so uncompromising, that apple wouldnt do it. plus they said verizon customers want the phone now, so it just wasnt meant to be at the time of the launch. that leads me to believe when the new iphone comes out in june, it will be LTE enabled for verizon.

also, the thunderbolt has built momentum in being billed as the first LTE phone. and verizon wouldnt let apple come in and scoop that up.

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You'll see. By the end of 2011.

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Wheelhouse

Do you really think they'll release a new handset in June? I can imagine so many customers being pissed off that they can't upgrade their phone in June and that they're stuck in a two year contract when the better, faster device is out.

They'll definitely release a new handset in June for both networks.

Whether or not it will be LTE is another issue.

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hard to say. part of thinks, yeah, what the fuck are they thinking, but the other part of me says, well, all these new LTE handsets are being sold left and right.. why would apple accept being left behind because they released a phone 5 months prior? apple bills its phone as the best, and not having LTE capabilities sure wouldnt help their cause. perhaps you could see separate releases. doubt it, but maybe. if a new phone is released in june, i can say it will be LTE enabled.

the thing about the iphone release is its messing with my head. the thunderbolt release may be pushed back because they dont want a phone being released prior to the iphone with more capabilities, thus making the iphone the best phone on verizon at the time of its release less then a month from now. with my blackberry being a shit, part of me is all.. well, just go out, get the shiny new iphone so you have a new toy to play with. im impatient.

but i think ill just wait this one out. ive been following this phone way to long to settle for an iphone because it might come out sooner.

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There will not be an LTE iPhone this summer. They won't make one until the chipsets are more power efficient, and there is enough coverage to warrant it.

everything ive read points to otherwise. they wanted this to be LTE enabled, but apple said the chip would have made them alter the iphone 4s appearance, and they would not do that at this time.

The early LTE (Long-Term Evolution) chip sets just weren't ready yet, Apple COO Tim Cook said at Verizon's event. "The first-generation LTE chip sets force some design compromises, some of which we would not make," Cook said. "Secondly -- and most importantly -- Verizon Wireless customers have told us they want the iPhone now."

that leads me to believe, given a few more months, the kinks would be worked out.

also, LTE already covers 1/3 of everyone in the nation, and that number is going to go up substantially by june.

also, i should point out, that according to some sources, apple was working on a CDMA handset as early as last summer. whether or not that time table is completely accurate, they were working on this for a long time. its possible the LTE chips just wernt ready by their deadline, which surely passed some time ago. i wouldnt be shocked in second gen LTE chips are ready by now.

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'Design compromise' doesn't necessarily mean visual appearance. The first gen LTE radios are probably battery whores, just like the first gen 3G radios were.

LTE covers 1/3 of Verizon customers in the nation. It does not cover any AT&T customers, and won't until next year.

Apple will go out of their way to not fragment the shit out of the iPhone manufacturing process. They'll test some LTE models on Verizon, probably already are, but they won't release one until the technology has more adoption.

Exhibit A : iPhone 1

i hear ya. but at the same time, as i already pointed out, if the technology is there, and it certainly is, i dont see apple ignoring high end technology for another 18 months. as you put it, an LTE enabled iphone wouldnt see the light of day, publicly, till 07/12. by then, things are going to change DRASTICALLY (i read today, perhaps jokingly, but im gulliable, of quad core, 3d phones in two year. im guessing that was satire, maybe?)

i dont think apple ignores this technology another 12 months. the playing field is already level, would they take the chance to be surpassed?

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