I know you're being sarcastic, but on another note, Goose is probably one of the fastest players on the ice when the puck is in the corner. He goes barreling in from the blue line almost always. Other players (like Pommers) just tend to float there, and either poke with a stick or tamper off entirely.

that's ridiculous, goose is slow as balls

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I really can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.

It's not. Goose is fucking slow.

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I don't think that montreal defensemen from a couple years ago thinks so.

Clock his times from the blue line to the corners when we dump the puck in.

If he's "slow" then "slow" is faster than most of our forwards.

1. Malkin isn't a playmaker in any way.
2. No he doesn't play with him on wing. Malkin is a center. Period.

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LAWL. That blueliner from a couple years ago was a flat-footed 40-something year old Mathieu Schneider. Not the best example.

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Eh

Goose makes Jaro Spacek look like Maxim Afinogenov.

Crosby plays with better talent than Vanek. If Roy and Ennis were as good as Malkin, they would put up more points. When Vanek stops producing at a similar rate as Crosby and ovechkin then he can stop being mentioned alongside them. Until then...

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Lindy said that Vanek is playing hurt for about 5 games now. One reason why he gets even less minutes than he used to.

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Malkin is on a different line. Ennis is a better playmaker than Malkin. So, if Makin plays with Crosby a lot (even though he doesn't), then he still has a worse playmaker.

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Malkin and Crosby get pp time together and occasional ES time. If Ennis was a better playmaker, he'd be putting up the points.

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Malkin is a brilliant play maker, one of the best passers in the game of hockey. And not only does Malkin play wing on 87's line, he plays wing on Staal's line. Sound retarded? It is, I agree. But that's what they do.

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Saying Malkin is one of the best passers in hockey makes me LOL.

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I agree that Vanek has been a better offensive player as of late, but producing as much as Crosby?

Alex compared their point production as a function of ice time, and found that Vanek is right there with them.

I'm happy for you.

A couple years a go he finished with 78 assists. That's the 5th highest season total since the lockout. Shit like that doesn't happen by accident. He did that with Sykora and Malone on his line, and he ran the power play.


Don't get me wrong, Ennis is steadily improving as he gains confidence with his puck skills. That pass he made today to set up Gerbe was as good a pass as you will see. That was like a Gretzky pass, and that's who he kind of reminds me of with the way he makes quick curls and looks to make plays. Thursday he had a shift that was dominating, like the leagues finest do. The puck followed him around and he set up 3 guys in that one shift.

If he has what it takes between the ears (which is always 90% of it IMO) to do the right things in the off season and remain focused on becoming a complete player and leader....he could be the next Martin St. louis.

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Well yeah that was a light hearted jab, but he is really slow despite his best efforts. I got no problem with Goose other than a lack of speed and he sometimes forgets about the puck when he goes to the net.

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B&Y, Malkin has played Wing for most of this year because of Pittsburgh lack of wingers, or good wingers.

He may be a center, but playing wing after playing center is a piece of cake. Every center in the league could play wing better than playing center. Why do you see most Centers drafted by the Sabres end up first playing wing for? It's easier to play than Center.

why does Hecht suck at center and not wing for? Because center requires some of the best skaters in the game to be in that position.

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Ah I see. Doing that though seems a little "shoulda coulda woulda". We have no idea if Vanek can go 20 plus minutes for 82 games.

Crosby and Vanek are equally effective on the powerplay, but on 5 on 5 situations, you cannot compare the two.

If you look up stats, Crosby owns in hitting, blocking shots, and most of the defensive categories that make you a good 5 on 5 player.

If you want to say "No, he's still great 5 on 5" get this. Cody McCormick, who is known as a complete grinder/fighter is only 2 goals and 6 points off from Thomas Vanek for the entire season. All with only 11 minutes per game. If you want to do the min/game stat, there you go.

And I'm definitely not going to argue that Vanek is stepping it off offensively. He is, but he's not Crosby.

Crosby does not own in any of those stats. He may have better defensive stats then Vanek, but look at the real defensive forwards, Bobby Ryan has triple the hits Crosby does, double the takeaways, and has 22 goals.

Lucic has 4 times as many hits, Ovechkin has 5 times the hits Crosby has.

Blocked shots, Kesler has 49, double the amount Crosby has, St. Louis has double also and same with Mike Richards.

For a forward, Crosby doesn't come anywhere near close to being the guy you would trust on the ice with a one goal lead in the final two minutes.

Because hits don't mean shit really, and blocked shots are more important than hits. Also he has 15 takeaways and 29 giveaways. Not really someone who is all that good defensively. Joe Thorton has 68 and Toews has 61.

Vanek has 22 takeaways and 33 giveaways.

Defensive players have more takeaways.

Would you argue Datsyuk is a great defensive player? No you wouldn't. 44 hits, 11 blocked shots, but 47 takeaways to 20 giveaways.

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