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Just read this and watched the video on tsn.ca..

Absolutely disgusting.

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LOL the comments are mostly people telling him to suck it up.

Wtf? The Jew hate statements made by the coach aren't even the problem here, but telling someone to suck it up when you're called a dirty Jew and hated every single time you see your coach isn't a suck it up moment. It can really drain your confidence and cause you to not get a long with your coach. But he's supposed to suck it up.

The fucking world is sick.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:07 am 
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The NHL is investigating what could be an explosive lawsuit filed by minor league player Jason Bailey against the Anaheim Ducks, alleging he was subject to systemic and repeated abuse while in the Ducks' farm system because he is Jewish.

The suit, filed Jan. 25 in California, refers to a period of time when Bailey, the 63rd overall pick in the 2005 draft, was playing with the ECHL Bakersfield Condors, then a farm team of the Ducks.

Among the allegations in documents obtained by ESPN.com, Bakersfield coach Martin Raymond and assistant coach Mark Pederson repeatedly made racial slurs referring to Bailey's Jewish faith. Raymond, who remains the team's head coach according to the Condor's website, allegedly told Bailey that Raymond's ex-wife was Jewish "and that she was a 'bitch' for taking all of his money."

When the team was discussing who should look after monies collected for a team party, it is alleged Bailey's name came up and Pederson remarked, "Well, I don't know if we can trust him with the money. He's Jewish."

Other allegations include frequent references made by Raymond about Jewish people and how they only care about money "and who's who."

During a road trip, Raymond allegedly turned to Bailey after seeing a CNN report on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and suggested, "Maybe you should go over there and fight in the war."

Raymond also allegedly told Bailey he would never want his son to be raised Jewish or to wear a Yarmulke.

Among the most damning pieces of the lawsuit are letters of apology from both coaches for their comments to Bailey.

"That's why they're trapped," Bailey's lawyer, Keith Fink, said of the defendants in the case that include the Condors and Ducks hockey clubs, and Raymond and Pederson.

In an undated letter included in the statement of claim, Raymond wrote:

"It was not my intention to offend you. The intent was to have a jovial moment. Please understand that prior to this incident, I was not trained to handle such a sensitive matter as a coach. As a French-Canadian, I too have come face-to-face with bigotry and understand how such remarks can negatively affect lives. I can certainly relate to you as I have repeatedly been called 'frog' through my playing and coaching career. This has affected me on and off the ice. Now that I understand that you were offended, I will no longer engage in this type of behavior nor condone it. I look forward to moving on and making a run for the playoffs as a team."

In a letter dated March 2, 2009, Pederson wrote that he never stopped to think how his words would make Bailey feel.

"Over the past week, I have had much time to think about this situation, and all that has transpired from my statement to you. I guess I never stopped to think about the impact my statement would have on you or how it would make you feel. It was not intended to insult or hurt you in any way, but it did, and for that I am truly sorry. From all that has happened, I have learned and become a better person. I am glad you are back, and I hope we can move forward from this and put our full concentration on our drive for playoffs. Please accept my apology."


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:13 pm 
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It's not acceptable at all.

I don't get how people seem to just not care about anything. Some of the comments are ridiculous.

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Coach with baggage says some antisemitic shit.
Hurts some feelings.
Get's called on it.
Writes apology letter.



So we sue?

Sorry, boo fucking hoo...I bet the only thing the player is disgruntled about is the Ducks are no longer owned by Disney so he has to limit his damages to below the $1 billion mark.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:55 pm 
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No, the coaches shouldn't even have their jobs. Read that article PSP linked. The fucking owners and the CEO of the Ducks are Jewish. The owners' parents were Holocaust survivors. There is no way Bailey should have been the one to lose his job with the Ducks. His suit is totally valid and the Ducks should have to pay for treating an employee like that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:58 pm 
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Coach with baggage says some antisemitic shit.
Hurts some feelings.
Get's called on it.
Writes apology letter.



So we sue?

Sorry, boo fucking hoo...I bet the only thing the player is disgruntled about is the Ducks are no longer owned by Disney so he has to limit his damages to below the $1 billion mark.

and this response is bs. Your wife is Chinese right? How'd you like it if your daughter played soccer on a team with a coach who called her a dirty slanty-eyed chink? Think those guys should get off with an apology letter?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:36 am 
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Listen, I was raised Mormon. I don't need a lecture on religious intolerance.

Not everything is this world is worthy of a law suit.
An apology letter does not prove damages.

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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
The coaches shouldn't even have their jobs.

I agree. He's not suing to get them fired, he's suing for money.
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The fucking owners and the CEO of the Ducks are Jewish. The owners' parents were Holocaust survivors.

Yet they're the ones that are going to pay for this suit...makes sense to me!

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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
The coaches shouldn't even have their jobs.

I agree. He's not suing to get them fired, he's suing for money.
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The fucking owners and the CEO of the Ducks are Jewish. The owners' parents were Holocaust survivors.

Yet they're the ones that are going to pay for this suit...makes sense to me!

They are the ones who didn't fire the coaches, and they're the ones who got rid of Bailey. They aren't innocent and totally free of responsibility here by any means. And as far as I know, you can't sue to have someone fire an employee. You can however, sue for financial damages, and it seems to me this whole situation definitely affected the man's professional career. What other options does he have?


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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
it seems to me this whole situation definitely affected the man's professional career. What other options does he have?


But how would we determine that?
Maybe the guy actually stinks and is using this as an excuse for his poor performance.

actually, check out his stats...he tanked while with the Condors
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=87860

I don't see how he can say "Coach is limiting my ice time because I'm a Jew" instead of "Coach is limiting my ice time because I stink"

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