/facepalm

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

He's had his chance to make the team, if he played the same way in the NHL as he did in the NHL, maybe he'd be on the team.

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solid point... Im just a lil tired of Neids and Timmy not getting much done... Maybe Im expecting to much out of Neids... and Timmy well, quote the famed Hank Hill... "That boy aint right"...

I know the team is a bit dinged... but maybe we can at least sit Neids and give Mancari a solid 20 games... I know the guy has had his chance, but he simply can not be more of a pylon than Neids... give him one thing to aim for, lol... tell him to get one big blast on net every period to start... I hear about the shot he has, but Ive never seen it, where is he hiding it? I want to see it once a period...

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Threads like this are why I barely post here anymore, and even rarer about hockey.

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mechaphil

i noticed myself this place appears to slowly be slowing down.

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wondering why i havent seen you as much.... to bad cause i like your opinion on hockey matters....

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We need new people bad, new non troll people.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

Lots of people have been driven out of here.

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Wheelhouse

how do you mean, adam?

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I think its that he could be another Kotalik...all the skill in the world, but doesn't play up to his size or ability. He is 225lbs. and is here based upon that and his skills. That why he should be held to that.

But no GM is going to sit $7M in salary to sit 3 players and try to shake things up with call ups. The only way Mancari gets back up here is injury.

Once we get to the playoffs then things may change...which is a stupid way to do things, but its the way of the cap and the league.


Then I totally expect Connolly to become Stu Barnes in the playoffs and if Darcy isn't fired, get another contract extension.

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

Back to the topic at hand...

Mancari has played a grand total of 19 NHL games over the course of the past 5 years. During that time, he has consistently been among the AHL leaders in points, and he has actually increased his point production over the past few seasons.

His longest stretch as a Sabre has been 7 games. While nobody could doubt that he has had his chances to MAKE the team, he has not been given a fair opportunity to display his skills and contributions outside of the preseason. Chris Butler comes to mind as a player who was called up from the AHL mid-season and was awarded more than ample playing time over 2 seasons before the coaches and management finally realized he wasn't worth a bag of pucks, so using the Butler scenario as a reference, Mancari has not received a fair opportunity.

Lindy must have something he doesn't like about this guy, because you'd expect that with that kind of productivity in the AHL, which continues to increase at more than a point per game pace, he'd be worthy of more extended playing time in the NHL, regardless of his preseason performance.

In the end, Lindy's assessment of the guy is all that matters, but to state that Mancari has had a fair shot to succeed in the NHL is wrong. I hope he gets traded or ends up with another team, because the guy's work over 5 seasons makes him deserving of getting a better look.

I think its totally a contract/money thing. If they can sit on a guy in this situation, they (and many teams) will do it.

I think the issue on our side is that we're in 10th and have a decent shot at making the final 8. If we in 5th or 13th, is this even an issue?

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

Chris Butler played so well during his callup that he made it impossible for them to send him back down. That's the only way you're going to stick in that scenario.

Mark Mancari hasn't come close to doing that every time he's been called up.

My only issue with Mancari is that he doesn't use you size to his advantage and throw his weight around. Their is no doubt the guy is a great AHLer but I have to agree on some other people's posts that he hasn't gotten enough games to make his impact felt. And I'm not talking about a handfull of games each season. The guy needs at least 15-20 games straight to see what he can do. But a few games here and few games there ain't cutting it. Not many players can just step right in and produce on a daily basis.

I don't recall Butler ever playing lights out, but maybe I'm just jaded from how bad he's become.

Field your best players. End of story. If we have dogs skating around on the big club, while guys are ripping up the A, then that's bad coaching. I don't care about the contracts, and they shouldn't matter. Winning a cup isn't only about nickels and dimes. This could very well be a case of these ass-clowns not wanting to make themselves look bad. If they field AHL players, while the guys they gave millions to are on waivers, what's that say about the guy who offered those contracts? I would never handcuff myself with a contract, because somewhere down the road the subterfuge is gonna run out. The only chance you have to redeem yourself is to eat your pride, and make the right decision. God I can't wait until Pegula takes over.

In 08-09 Butler:

47gp, 2g, 4a, +11

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The GM decides who plays where, and the contacts do matter.

The GM decides everything(well no, the owner does), but usually the coach does the call-ups(usually through a discussion with the GM).

Are you asserting that we should continue to pay poor players, while we have better options in the AHL??? Some teams are smart enough to buy out shitty players. Some GM's are afraid to admit they were wrong, and bench(waive) players. Both camps are represented in the NHL, and I like the ones which always try to field the best players.

I'm not asserting that at all.

I'm simply saying that a player in the AHL who isn't in the NHL isn't 'poor coaching'. It's a decision, could be business related, could be play related.