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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:49 pm 
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I usually have it on in the background but not today....anyone been watching or listening to the chatter on the NHLN talk show programs?

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And people need to chill out over the fact that it wasn't announced. Have you guys ever considered the fact that it wasn't announced because Lindy rejected his offer? You know if they had announced Darcy's extension, the media would have asked about Lindy's status and it would have created a lot of speculation and distraction knowing that Darcy extended his contract while Lindy chose not to. I'm willing to bet that's why they didn't announce Regier's extension.

If the definition of shady is suspicious, then this was shady. When a guy is extended, it's reported. Squanto can say they don't have to, but eventually they do. The reason why this wasn't is suspicious. As for the distractions, wouldn't the fall have been a much better time for this 'distraction' than just before the deadline while were fighting for 8th spot? I'm not claiming there were any bad intentions, but these guys opened the jar of worms all by themselves. Now the questions will linger, because these things don't just fade away in pro sports.


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Now the questions will linger, because these things don't just fade away in pro sports.


What fucking questions? The guys that gave Regier the extension will have nothing to do with this team inside of a month. There's no questions.

Darcy was given an extension by the (soon to be) former owner. The new owner can make his own decision to what to do about it.


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The only thing I thought was strange at first was thinking Darcy got a parachute and Lindy didn't. Now we know both of them got the offer. It doesn't effect anything except Darcy's bank account. So what if it wasn't announced? That was probably due to Ruff turning his down. Pegula can do whatever he wants in a few weeks and we can hope for the best.


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Squanto wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Now the questions will linger, because these things don't just fade away in pro sports.


What fucking questions? The guys that gave Regier the extension will have nothing to do with this team inside of a month. There's no questions.

Darcy was given an extension by the (soon to be) former owner. The new owner can make his own decision to what to do about it.

You must be pretty naive if you think no one is going to ask why it wasn't announced at the time, or if the sale was imminent at the time, or if Pegula knew, etc. I have no idea why you think this didn't have to be transparent. It's sports ffs. There's guys who's job it is to sit around thinking of questions to ask. Seriously, Squanto wth.


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We first should let Pegula take over the team before we even worry about anything.

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daz28 wrote:
You must be pretty naive if you think no one is going to ask why it wasn't announced at the time, or if the sale was imminent at the time, or if Pegula knew, etc. I have no idea why you think this didn't have to be transparent. It's sports ffs. There's guys who's job it is to sit around thinking of questions to ask. Seriously, Squanto wth.


Sure, people are going to ask. However, you're missing my point.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER ANYMORE.

Of course Pegula knew about the contact before he bought the team. You don't think he didn't examine every employment contact in the organization weeks ago? I guarantee he did. It's a normal part of a business acquisition.

Pegula bought the team anyway, and the people who gave him the contract are leaving.

WHO CARES ANYMORE.


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Some fans care, Squanto. It might be irrelevant moving forward as a fan, but I know I'm personally very interested in hearing about the reasoning behind all the mistakes this organization has made since BTG bought them.

This is one of those mistakes.

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The answer doesn't MEAN anything. No matter what they say, no matter what answer they give, people are going to spend time ans energy bitching about it, even though that answer has no bearing on the team moving forward. None.

If people want to be that involved in the inner day to day workings of a franchise, they should go work for one.


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How is it a mistake? Regier's extension has no bearing on what happens after Pegula takes over. This was simply BTG willing to give Ruff and Regier a possible going away present if it came to that. It's not unusual in the business world or in the NHL. Nobody in the NHL is going to care or think it means anything outside of Buffalo. What Golisano cares to provide Regier is up to him and only him, and it only effects his bank account, or possibly Pegula's. The argument could be made that the sale price would've been 191 mil if not for Regier's extension. Either way Pegula bought so if he has no issue with it, why should we?


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Squanto wrote:

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER ANYMORE.


WHO CARES ANYMORE.

Maybe you don't, but some people do. It seems like you're pushing your opinion on others here. If people want to care, please let them. Sometimes I wish I could just buy you a shot and a beer man.

Edit: As for no bearing moving forward, some people might look at this as $2.5 million wasted on a guy we may not have/want. You can see it anyway you want Squanto and I'll respect that, but others may have different views.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
How is it a mistake? Regier's extension has no bearing on what happens after Pegula takes over. This was simply BTG willing to give Ruff and Regier a possible going away present if it came to that. It's not unusual in the business world or in the NHL. Nobody in the NHL is going to care or think it means anything outside of Buffalo. What Golisano cares to provide Regier is up to him and only him, and it only effects his bank account, or possibly Pegula's. The argument could be made that the sale price would've been 191 mil if not for Regier's extension. Either way Pegula bought so if he has no issue with it, why should we?


Just because he bought the team doesn't mean he was indifferent about Regier's extension. He could have been just as pissed as any of the fans.

If some people are ticked about it, let them be ticked.

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daz28 wrote:
Maybe you don't, but some people do. It seems like you're pushing your opinion on others here. If people want to care, please let them. Sometimes I wish I could just buy you a shot and a beer man.

Edit: As for no bearing moving forward, some people might look at this as $2.5 million wasted on a guy we may not have/want. You can see it anyway you want Squanto and I'll respect that, but others may have different views.


I'm not attempting to push my view on anyone. Sorry if it appears that way.

It's just clear cut for me. This $2.5M contract has no bearing on the team itself. It doesn't affect their play. It doesn't affect their ability to win a championship. Darcy Regier is the GM until his deal expires, or he's fired. That's it.

It doesn't make any difference if you or I or any fan didn't want Regier to stay. It's not our choice. If Mr. Pegula is willing to accept the contract as it is, then fine. We don't know. It's possible he dropped his price $2.5M because he wants to fire Regier, and didn't want to have to eat that deal. Nobody knows, and nobody needs to no.

I just see all kinds of butthurt about this because they feel that has a fan they were somehow REQUIRED to have been told about the deal when it was signed. That's just not true. This is a financial transaction between BTG , Darcy, and now Pegula. If it costs one party some money down the road, that's for them to worry about.

Not us.


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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Just because he bought the team doesn't mean he was indifferent about Regier's extension. He could have been just as pissed as any of the fans.

If some people are ticked about it, let them be ticked.


If Pegula was pissed about it, that's his business. Not ours.

I'm sure there were other things he found about the Sabres that ticked him off. Should we be raging about that too? Maybe the contract with SportsService to run concessions just got extended on mediocre terms. Where are the threads about that outrage?

People are only whining because it's Regier, and they feel entitled to know about every transaction that team makes.


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soooo... how about that sale?

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If Pegula was pissed about it, that's his business. Not ours.


Did I say I wanted to know how Pegula felt? Did I even say I cared? No. I was just pointing out that Pegula's decision to purchase the Sabres doesn't prove anything about his feelings in regard to the Regier deal.

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Maybe the contract with SportsService to run concessions just got extended on mediocre terms. Where are the threads about that outrage?


I'm just venturing a guess here but, maybe people didn't post or complain about the contract with sports service to run the concessions because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs on the ice.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
I'm just venturing a guess here but, maybe people didn't post or complain about the contract with sports service to run the concessions because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs on the ice.


Darcy Regier was contracted to be the GM through this season already. What he has (or has not) done to this point will not have changed because of the extended contract.

Therefore, the contract extension has had no effect on the team's performance on the ice, and by your own logic, nobody should care.


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Darcy's extension won't have anything to do with anything on the ice either, unless Pegula wants to keep him, and the extension won't influence whether Darcy stays or goes.


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I realize that it doesn't effect the team next year, except for the possibility that Pegula spends 2 million less somewhere else because he had to buy out Darcy's contract. But his shitty moves have cost us the past 4 seasons.

It's the fact that Darcy has failed the fans, and as such, the fans are pissed about him getting a bonus.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
soooo... how about that sale?


Sale? :?

What sale?


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