It just allows scouts to watch even more games than just the ones they are at too.

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Isn't that what the box score is for?

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Just watching the box score can't give you who is good and who isn't. The team needs to figure out who are the good players and who are the players that are benefiting from playing with those good players. Plus you can't really see the players all around play in a box score.

I think he was joking.

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Off-topic idea for the board: Each post has a sarcasm-meter that all users must use.

On a scale of 1-5, it would look like this:
1- Dead Serious
2- Post Should Be Taken Seriously
3- Humorous, But Serious Post
4- Sarcastic
5- Trolling

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Girgensons for captain. Team Keep Nick DesLauriers forever.

@TJLuckman550

Your avatar gave it away.

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Wheelhouse

Hey, just because he looks like a troll doesn't make me one. (JK)

Also, don't hate on Mike Brown because of his kick-ass baritone sax skills and amazing faces.

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Not ripping on it. It's humorous.

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You have to balance out those quotes with the fact that Buffalo has planned all along to develop and play their prospects. The fact that they don't/can't land big name UFAs necessitates playing their draft picks, whether they are really that good or not.

Not trying to be critical of Darcy, but aside from the various 1st rd busts, there has been plenty of marginal draftees that played in Buffalo that wouldn't have played for very long (if at all) with many other teams. We can look not very far back at Gerbe, Kennedy, Butler, Sekera (before this season), Paetsch, and Kalinin. It's good that they stick with these players and develop them to near the best of their talent, but without the better players acquired through trade or FA we'll end up with a not quite good enough team to win a Cup.

We didn't draft Kennedy. I see your point, but I still think that you have an advantage with video scouting.

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But we'd be better off with video scouting and a real scouting dept. that watches players in person or, gasp, even goes to europe.

We still have traveling scouts. Just not as many, and they don't go as often.

Video scouting opens them up to a wider range of players, and helps them pick and choose who to go watch.

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Really dude? Let's look into Darcy's "Poor" player judgement shall we?
In 05-06, Kotalik and Dumont were both 25. They could only keep one. Kotalik's 05-06 Stats: G:25 A:37 P:62 Dumont's 05-06 Stats: G:20 A:20 P:40 Now, I know that Dumont played 28 less games than Kotalik, but I'm pretty sure that you would take Kotalik over Dumont too back in 2006. Not signing Orpik? How in the world do you know if Darcy even tried to sign him? Orpik is obviously a good defenseman, and he got resigned by Pittsburgh. Don't you think that a couple of teams gave him offers? Not signing Briere? They could only keep one of them, and Darcy wanted Drury over Briere, Drury went to the Rangers, and Briere wanted to go to the Flyers after he found out that they weren't going to sign him. Tough sale on trades and reluctance to move future? Are you kidding? How in the fuckin world do you know if Darcy is trying to aquire a star player? How?! Yes, Moore, Bernier, and Torres didn't turn out great on our teams, but Moore had 41points before coming over to Buffalo, and he didn't even have a salary over 1m. I'm pretty sure you would take him. Torres had 19 goals coming to Buffalo, which led our team. Bernier had 23 points before coming to Buffalo, and he was on the 3rd and 4th line in San Jose. Now, I know that Darcy isn't the greatest GM, but hammering him with all of this negativity is just wrong.

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I agree with Petey on the Dumont issue. JP was clearly a better player than Al Kotalik.

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But twice as good? $4M to $2M?

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06/07-08/09

Ales Kotalik: 113 Points.

J.P. Dumont: 203 Points.
Playoffs: 12 points in 17 games.

And if you extend it past when Kotalik left, it's even more unbalanced.

JP was twice as good.

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Wheelhouse

We were talking about when we had a decision, correct? Regier isn't a fortune teller.

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It was pretty easy to tell that JP was a better player than Kots at the time. Stats might look similar, but all you had to do was watch them play to tell that JP was a more complete player.

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id rather have JP over pominville. thats how highly i thought of JP at the time. and pominville was young then.

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Ales Kotalik: 113 points
Tyler Ennis: 39 pts

Ergo Kotalik is roughly three times as good as Ennis.


Seriously though, your argument is awful, at least put things into terms of ppg so we can get some idea of production. Simply going by point totals just isn't enough. Since the lockout:

Dumont - .98 gp60 - 1.69 ap60 - 2.67 pp60 (+31)
Kotalik - 1.00 gp60 - 1.21 ap60 - 2.21 pp60 (-40)

So Kotalik, on worse teams (hasn't been to the playoffs since 06-07) wasn't that much less productive than Dumont.

If you really wanted to address the point I made, you should have pointed out that the real question isn't whether Dumont is twice as good, it's whether he's $2M better (huge difference).

I think it's pretty clear that management erred in letting Dumont walk while keeping Kotalik, I was just pointing out that a direct comparison between the two is flawed because it's not simply this guy or this guy, it's this guy at this cost or that guy at that cost. Bit of a difference.

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