going by rasks numbers, if he plays 10 more games last year, he takes the veznia last year, not miller.

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At any rate, I think Miller has to be professional at all times in that locker room. If ya wanna bitch, wait till you're at the bar afterward. It's the American way.

I would just like to say to the thread originator that I like a TWO goalie system better then a one goalie system. Which is to say that I like two good goalies competing for starts as opposed to any kind of complacency. However, I am opposed to trading Miller, but not at all opposed to trading for a "backup" that could conceivably replace Miller for short or even long stretches of time.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

Here's my take on it.

Players need practice time. I personally think goaltenders need more than skaters, but that's just my personal opinion. Players also need time to rest and recover.

When Miller gets ridden like this, he's not getting rest. So, practice time gets shortened up. He takes entire practices off. That leads to mistakes in his game. Since he isn't getting the practice time in, those mistakes start to become habits. And those habits lead to poor performance on the ice.

Even unquestioned premier goaltenders need a night off now and than, and a good practice or two to correct minor things.

Miller is getting neither.

But the Bruins didn't think he was good enough to play those 10 games, so the point is moot.

I don't know, I like that he isn't afraid to call someone out... As a fan I love it when the athletes put reporters in their place. Vogl should have dropped it, he knew he was getting nowhere with that question but he persisted and it angered Miller who was obviously already very frustrated.

It was obviously a "in the heat of the moment" situation, I'm sure if Miller had a day to reflect he wouldn't have reacted the way he did.

Although I think football coaches are the best when it comes to flipping out on the media.

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"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hockey Night in Buffalo

You see?!!?

This is why you don't pound your goalie into the ground like Ruff is doing. Never-mind the fact that goalies lose 5-10 pounds of water weight EVERY GAME or the fact that they are dealing with the ebbs and flows of the entire 60+ minutes of every single game. They also have to deal with the media every fucking day.

For fucks sake Lindy, give the guy a fucking night off or a week off. I think he's earned it and for that matter I think you need to dust off your back up once in awhile just in case. Fuck....

As for his comments, I don't think he said anything bad at all. Why are there kids there in the fucking first place, did they take them to the strip club too? I mean it's an NHL locker room, if you don't hear the Eff bomb 100+ times then it's an empty locker room. And yeah that reporter sounded like a douche bag to me too.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

So in your view, the reporters are allowed to say whatever they want in public, on the radio or in the paper, but the athlete cannot respond in kind?

Well, not to be trollish, but I said Lalime blew, and we needed someone who would actually play. Everyone seemed to be content that he was cheap, thinking we'd be up in the standings. We should have done what it took to get a decent backup even if it hurt Miller's feeling when Lalime packed his locker. Hopefully Emery plays good, and we can snag Mcbackup from Anaheim. Throw him in a Connolly trade.

I'm not allowed to fight with the customers at work(either are you). So no. Other players have bit their tongues. Some have made a career out of it. If he wants to talk to the guy mano-mano, that's different. This was in public.

I just don't agree. I see both the media and the player as public figures. If one has the right to criticize the other in public, the other has the same right.

I don't understand that analogy. Sullivan and Vogl aren't Ryan Miller's customers. Vogl didn't have to persist with his question. Miller already answered it by saying, "I feel fine." Sullivan, being the prick that he always is, interjected in the conversation that he had no business being part of. Then he deliberately insults Miller by making a crack about him allowing 4 goals in how many games it was. I'm glad Miller finally called out Sullivan. I think Vogl's original intentions weren't bad, but I think he also knew that he was stirring things up when Miller was obviously annoyed at the question and he kept pressing him about it.

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"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hockey Night in Buffalo

I wasn't there, but it seemed like Ryan just had an attitude tonight. It happens. If every athlete had an attitude every time someone wrote negatively about them, it'd be a giant line brawl circus at the interviews. Maybe they instigated him, I don't know.

In the games Lalime has played he has shown he is not a good goaltender to split time with.

Rask on the other hand was a phenom last year. His played warranted him to start, which he did. Thomas won back the starting job with his play this year, and Rask is not as lights out as he was last year.

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It's not so much customer/employee, but public professionalism, as I had already stated. The more we discuss it, the more they ALL seem like babies. In any event, this paparazzi's rights discussion could be endless, so I'm done with it for now.

Any way you look at it, you were still benching him, which made it harder on him.

Your post said no more than what I had already added in mine, "I know Lalime is not Rask"

I can't seem to get the audio feed to work when I download it for some reason. I'm really intrigued to hear this based on everyone's comments.

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"Love, love will tear us apart again"- Ian Curtis

Miller was probably pretty agitated. He knew that his performance was subpar, and it cost them the game. He didn't need a reporter to tell him that.

The media LOVES to instigate. They LOVE confrontation. Writing a story about how Miller was pissed at himself, knew he didn't play well, know he has to be better, that doesn't sell papers.

Writing a story about Miller freaking out after 'an innocent question' is much more interesting. The fact that they provoked the freak out usually doesn't get mentioned.

Jim Kelley used to be critical of players, but he would show his face in that locker room after every game and let the player confront him if they wanted. He was always tough, but always FAIR. If a player was playing like crap because of some personal issues, they'd tell Kelley, and he'd back off them without reporting that fact. (That's not conjecture, that;s something Kelley told me personally years ago.)

i dont think they wanted to pull the plug on a former veznia winner/overplay a 22 year old rookie. on the first part, the sabres are doing the same with miller.

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Miller goes on a great game streak, has one bad game, then here comes the thread "ZOMG HE SSSUUUXXX". You could at least wait a few more games before you start to pick what's wrong.

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