Newton's laws.

The Law of Gravitation.

If it is a Law, it has been proven, therefore making it not a Theory.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

interesting long bit of discussion that was held over at CAF about this(and yes, there are some atheist views in here)

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=383481

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

"There is no immediate prospect of identifying the mediator of gravity. Attempts by physicists to identify the relationship between the gravitational force and other known fundamental forces are not yet resolved, although considerable headway has been made over the last 50 years"

I'm willing to call a law that is dependent on a theory a theory by proxy.

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Or fly planes into buildings. Sorry, but religion, while it has been a center for people that have truly needed it, is not a magnanimous institution.

I didn't try to start a fight, merely stated that one is inevitable. That tends to happen when you've got something that people are particularly fervent about, and absolutely zero proof one way or the other. I believe in higher powers, but I think that a lot of religious mythology is borne out of the need to justify our existence, or ease fears of death. The concept of heaven illustrates both of these in that it justifies good deeds and a moral life, and presents a world beyond the time when we kick it.

Now, my feeling has always been that if you can ease the suffering of just one person, or bring happiness to one person, however fleeting, then you've accomplished one of the greatest achievements we are capable of. As far as death is concerned, I believe in reincarnation and I'm coming back as a T-Rex and I'm going to eat all of you. Good night sirs and madams.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

Personally I'd love for there to be a heaven. Divine relaxation would be sweet.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

I have no problem with people's personal beliefs, none. I do however have a problem with an agenda that tries to push down science and replace it with ancient superstitions that are founded on zero evidence. I have watched the creationist videos and find the tactic of exaggerating arguments within the scientific community to characterize them as laughable and wrong to be in itself laughable and wrong. The fields of biology, archeology, paleontology, meteorology, chemistry, astronomy, and etc all agree that evolution has taken place and is very much real. That doesn't mean that particulars of how evolution has run its course are not debated, but there is a long stretch from "I think this particular sub-species made this particular leap and here's my evidence" to "Hey Stan this evolution stuff is bull!". There are literally thousands of transitional fossils to prove evolution over the scope of various species. Recent genetic research has shown that our chromosomes share specific ancestor markers with great apes. Cramming all the information into one post is of course impossible but the evidence is much more than compelling and far from arguable. ....and one shred of scientific proof for the Adam and Eve creation story? None. Therefore it isn't science and its rightful place is inside your church or home...not the school science classroom. Now if the class was an elective and I had a choice as a parent...fine, but selling creationism as science is not misleading, it's a lie.

I also have a problem when I hear people say this country was founded "under God" and completely leave out the fact (or perhaps don't know) that the founding fathers above all else were secularists and understood through study and observation that to be effective, government had to to be completely separate from religion, and in doing so is the only way for all people to have the freedom to practice their faith. This country was founded with the belief that all faiths were welcome here and would be afforded the right to flourish. Putting up a Biblical scene at a government building, or a Star of David, or a bust of Shiva is the decision of patrons dedicated to those particular faiths, and they are afforded tax free buildings and property to do so. The beauty of America IS its religious freedom, lets keep it that way.

i have to believe in god. after being struck by lightning, and crushed by a downed maple tree seconds afterwards, 10 concussions, missing a utility pole by inches after losing control of my car at 100 mph, swimming with alligators, landing on my head and fracturing my neck while diving into water, and being pulled out of the water after my lungs filled with water while swimming, something, somewhere, clearly wants me to survive. natural selection has tried really really hard. so, somethings up.

i dont understand the appeal of refuting religion. your fucking with someones faith. wanna ruin someones day? thats fine. but dont fuck with peoples faith.

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That is awesome right there Irony.

Probably the best thing anyone could ever say about it.

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I have faith in evolution. Why do you christians keep fucking with it?

Of course there is a God...

Wide right
No Goal
Music City Miracle
Defenseless in Carolina
Harmon Drop
20 straight vs Miami
MNF Curse

...and He hates Buffalo.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

Maybe because evolution is not a religion and not really a faith type thing.

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I am a church-going Episcopalian, my son's an altar boy, we have communion every Sunday, pray our faces off for those we love (and some we don't), etc, etc.

When it comes to separation of church and state, its not church and state, its Christianity and state that they are trying to separate. What I'm for is total equality. If we are going separate religion from schools, government, etc, it should be across the board. No Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Christian anything. If they are teaching about the Karan in school, they should be teaching about the Bible.

All are welcome to believe what they want. I have Wiccan friends, Athiest friends and I respect their beliefs as long as they respect mine. Its when Christianity seems to be the one singled out that gets me mad.

And, lastly, if its your decision to not believe in God and to remove him from your beliefs, then don't be mad at Him and ask where He is when bad things happen.

That is my two cents...the end.

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Its NNYFAN, but you can just call me Kris.

No one is bashing on anyone's beliefs. I for one never said anything negative about God, just the attempt to force beliefs into the public and political arenas. Your beliefs are personal so keep them private or with like minded people and stop preaching to me. I would like nothing more than to go out in public with my Miro Satan jersey and not have to tell some uppity born again to stick it when they try to "save" me. And I sure as hell aren't knocking on your damn door at 9 am on a Saturday to tell you about Darwin.

as a side note....I agree with ETC that if there is in fact a God he must have lost money on a Buffalo game at some point because he's got a big chip on his shoulder when it comes to Western NY teams.

I personally have some belief in a diving being. I just don't think that any of the religions in the world have it right.

I think it's an important point to make that religious zealotry has caused a great deal of problems for human society over the years, but a zealot doesn't, and shouldn't be held as representative of the entire belief system.

WTF is all this now?

Politics aren't contentious enough for you people?

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Hold my beer and watch this...

BAHAHA

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mechaphil

Well, evolution, and the countless human discoveries and advancements that have laid the basis for modern science are as important to me, as your invisible, omnipotent, utterly absent "god" is to you, so what is the difference? You talk shit about my beliefs, why should I show yours any respect?