1. he's bigger and stronger- so he's not allowed to play hard? lmao
2. i don't remember this, maybe i'm wrong
3. you want him suspended for 15-43 games for an accident? dude, people who wield hockey sticks as weapons in the game are suspended for shorter amounts of time.

yeah, it was interference, the same kind of interference that happens on almost every single dump in every single game. a defenseman skates in the line of the offensive player.

it sucks, but i'm standing firm that it's more a freak accident than anything. that play happens 10 times a game and i only remember someone hitting the divider once in my life.

Chara WILL NOT be suspended according to ESPN. What a fucking joke.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

The Bertuzzi incident was much different than this. Bertuzzi's sucker punch can be looked at as a player looking to send a message. Chara's is no more than an unlucky accident, amplified by the fact that it's Chara, and none of us like him.

I am a little bit surprised there was no suspension simply for the awful outcome.

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What about the fact Chara knows full well where that divider is? He's been playing hockey his whole life, he knows where the fucking benches are. He knows where they end. He knew right where they were on the ice and did not stop driving him into the boards.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

my point of the bertuzzi incident is that no player is out to break another's fucking neck, no matter what the primary cause was.

you can't suspend based on an outcome. the same thing can happen to four different players and 3 might be fine but one guy could break his leg. how many times have you seen a defender hook a guy on a breakaway to stop the rush? one time, a guy falls and breaks his hand, should be suspend the defender?

what about it? shit still happens. count how much time it is between first contact and when max hits the wall. it's less than a second. human reaction takes almost 1/2 of a second at best and shit just happens, man. players can't just stop playing hard. it's a contact sport, accidents happen occasionally. someone is bound to take a blade to the neck (malarchuk, zednick), someone's bound to run into a divder (prucha, max). it's not like it's a play that is deliberately done to injure someone, like an elbow to the head.

A hook is a different play. When a player hooks another he is not directing him towards the boards. Chara drove Pacioretty into the boards and did not let up even though he knew the bench ended and that divider was coming. Chara is fully responsible for what happened, but is not being held responsible. Chara did not accidentally ride him into the bench. He wanted to hit Pacioretty. He did not want to injure him, I don't think there was intent to critically hurt him as he did. However, all Chara had on his mind was hitting Pacioretty (maybe with a little extra given their history and the fact his team was losing). Maybe the rest of the season is a bit much but he still needs to be held responsible.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

I think it probably doesn't help that I hate Chara. It sickens me that a player is now critically injured because of a reckless, selfish play like this. I just think somehow Chara should be held responsible for this. Especially because he always takes liberties with other players.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

you completely miss the point. it's just pure probability. shit happens once in a while on a play you see every game. the hooking on a breakaway is an example of something you see all the time that is penalized. the one time out of 1000 that a guy gets hurt, should the person who hooked the guy on the breakaway be suspended? no, it's a hockey play. it is an accident. accidents are a risk you take when you play a contact sport.

i don't think you're being objective at all. i don't see him "taking liberties" nearly as often as many other players do. like i said, penalize the action, which they did, not the result.

tsn.ca lied. no action taken against chara. no suspension or fine.

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I just wonder what if Kaleta did something like this? Or Cooke? Or Avery? Or Ott?
Would the NHL just shrug their shoulders and say "Meh, shit happens."
It probably doesn't help my viewpoint based on the fact that Chara has also dodged the mandatory 1 game suspension for a last minute instigator penalty TWICE in 2010.

I don't know. Maybe I'd be better off counting to 10 and coming back to debate this. It's got me all hot and bothered. Haha.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

There are provisions in the NHL rulebook that state that illegal plays (Chara committed interference) that cause head or neck injury are to be assessed a misconduct that requires supplemental discipline. Cut and dry. Intent to injure or not, he has to be suspended within the confines of the NHL rulebook. Cut and dry.

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So I'm not totally crazy? Cool.

What's not cool is that Chara is once again is able to circumvent the rule book.

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"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"

Dangerous and dirty. I'm not buying the "I just play hard.", Matt Cooke defense. May as well say, "I didn't mean for him to get brain damage, I just pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. That's all I do, is pull the trigger.".

30 games minimum or Bettmen can go to hell.

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so did the big oaf get suspended... or did the NHL look the other way... and im going by Phil's explanation of the rules...

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No supplemental action to Chara..

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Chara escapes...

Lameness.

where?

Well based on the rules Phil outlined... it seems there continues to be two sets of rule books for the NHL... its the one thing I seriously can not stand about this league... from officiating to disciplinary action, there is ZERO consistency... and ZERO accountability... Call it the same for everyone for every game... the pens game was an officiating disaster last night... and this incident certainly skirts the rules for Chara once again... as someone else pointed out... He should have been suspended in the play-offs last year based on the letter of the rule book... why even have a rule book if your going to do whatever the hell you want... its simply an damn shame... and it should be Bettmen's and Campbell's ass... but the owners or players association simply do not hold these guys accountability...

I said it before, its going to be sad day, but the only thing that will wake these fucks up (Bettmen and Campbell) is when someone dies on the ice or is paralyzed...

Start by getting rid of the instigator rule, allow the players to police their actions on the ice and call the rule book the way its written...

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I gotta look em up. They were referenced last night by a couple talking heads. If I'm wrong and they don't say that, then my bad yos.

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