I have no problem with the lack of suspension. He's NOT Cooke, Avery or some other douchbag who makes his living boarding people for 2 minutes a night. he's been in the league for years and hasn't done anything suspend able (except the last playoff series, I know) The point is he did not do it on purpose, players get tossed onto the bench all the time, if anything I blame that dumbass post for being right there.
Can't we just put a mini divider there and suspend the shit out of people that reach over it? that way people don't get slammed in the face like this.
Chara seems genuinely sorry, and anything that wears on his mind and possibly affects his game is good enough for me. The good thing is that Max isn't paralyzed or dead.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

This. That's exactly it. He's not a guy that is routinely in these types of situations. This was all a freak accident that had the friggin' pole not been there, we wouldn't even be talking about this. We'd be talking how great of a hit it was that he pounded him in the bench (just like we do when we see all the other hits like that.) The rarity that this actually happens is also relevant. I've never seen something happen like that until last night, when Ennis went into the pole. It just so happened that the same exact thing happened, just a lot closer to that pole.

Again, it is impossible to have exact awareness of where you are along the boards, you just know there's a players bench there, and you're not really thinking about a pole being there.

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I have a very large problem IF it goes against the written rule book... I don't care intent... I don't care out come... If its in the rules, than its in the rules... you don't have different rules for different players... but it seems the NHL does... and I will hold out may anger until Phil has verified that the rules state he should be suspended...

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What like Phil's going to lie?

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no, but phil and i both know hockey pretty well and we've been posting together since 2007. i don't recall seeing or hearing about that rule, and since i don't, i asked for a source. i didn't say he lied, i just asked for proof.

Ok, so you are ok with double standards?????? That is complete BS. If Cooke, Avery, Kaleta, (insert agitator here) was involved there would be a suspension and a long one at that. The hit may have been a "clean" hit but you could make a case that there was an intent to injure.....just sayin but I'm ok with no suspension

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To me it doesn't matter who the player is or what he meant to to, HE DID IT. And if you don't want those kinds of hits in your league AT ALL then you suspend him. Now there is nothing to stopmthe next guy, probably Matt Cooke, frommdoing the sam exact thing.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

like i said, its going to take someone getting paralyzed or killed to get them to wake up.... i haven't been following hockey as closely as some over the past few years and earlier... BUT it seems there has been a very large rise in SEVERE concussions over the past few years... where is CV, I'd like to see some vulgar stats on that one...

BUT....

Timmy
Savard
Max P
Crosby

and I know there are more, but those are simply off the top of my head the guys that have had SEVERE concussions over the past few years... yes Timmy was a heads down hockey play... but Savard wasn't... Max P was questionable... Crosby? what hit got him any ways?

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I wasn't even going to get into this, because there's 50,00 internet posts on it, and no one knows what the guys real intentions were for sure. What a bunch of wasted bytes. If there was even a hint that anyone in the league would intentionally do that to another person, they should be dealt with accordingly, including criminal charges. Maybe that's why the league isn't issuing bans is because 10 bans down the road your sport doesn't look so good even if it is attempting to fix its own 'self-admitted problems'. They're afraid to open a can of worms on themselves.

I'm saying that it was obviously not intentional. He didn't jump off his skates to blast some poor guy in the head, Chara doesn't do that. Guys like Cooke and Gilles do crap like this at alarming rates, Chara does not. And no way in hell is there intent to injure. People get rubbed out along the boards all the time, on this one there just happened to be some dumbass pole sitting there. I'm not attacking you, I just don't feel like Chara smashing Max's face into a pole was premeditated.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

What you don't see here is where Chara's hand actually is. It's not on Pacheretti's head. From another angle, you can see that the contact is Chara's forearm on Pacheretti's shoulder. This view takes away an all-important third dimension. I call bs on this picture. That doesn't mean Chara's intentions were pure necessarily. But I don't think anyone should be making decisions based on this picture.

My take is that it was unintentional. Ever see the video of Chara's fight with Lecavalier from the playoffs? He pounds the shit out of him but lets up when he's got Lecavalier down on the ice and completely defenseless. He could have kept punching him when he was lying there on the ice, it's not like that would have been the first time someone kept hitting someone on the ice. But Chara let up out of respect. I just don't think a guy who does that is looking to knock someone's brains into a steel pole.

Nobody knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that is wasn't intentional, you don't know what was goign through his mind when he directed him into the turnbuckle. Just because a guy doesn't NEED to jump up to gain the desired effect does not by itself indicate that he didn't have malicious intent.

I'll tell you one thing for sure that wasn't going through Chara's mind when he decided to make that hit, a fear of NHL discipline. And I know what wont be going through the mind of the next guy that does the exact same thing, a fear of NHl discipline.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

if you're making a routine check on someone along the boards, NHL discipline shouldn't run through your head.

What was routine about that? Either Chara thought about the danger he put a helpless player in, or he didn't. Either you like the attention hits like that bring to your sport, or you want to protect the players from themselves. I think we know where the NHL stands on that.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

its like hitting a guy in the numbers. certain situations you recognize as dangerous

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

squeezing someone out along the boards happens about twenty times a game. unfortunate placing.

OK, I was right and wrong. There is an automatic fine of $100 for a major penalty causing head or neck injuries (Chara's interference was called a major) and a $200 fine for being assessed a game misconduct (which he was, as well). There is nothing about automatic supplemental discipline for misconducts or majors - it's match penalties that receive automatic suspensions.

So yea, my bad.

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Thanks for looking it up Phil... certainly not a hit you want to see in any games... lets hope this one doesn't happen again...

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