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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:38 pm 
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We've all seen it at one time or another, Brooks and Torts, Andy Sutton, or more recently Miller and Sullivan, and less recently, Hasek. What does it mean? Is it indicative of immaturity on the part of the player, douchebaggery on the part of the media, does it signify intensity or a lack of ability to keep one's cool?

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I think it just means that all people are human, and eventually they are going to put their professionalism in the backseat and just say what they are really feeling at that moment in time.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
We've all seen it at one time or another, Brooks and Torts, Andy Sutton, or more recently Miller and Sullivan, and less recently, Hasek. What does it mean? Is it indicative of immaturity on the part of the player, douchebaggery on the part of the media, does it signify intensity or a lack of ability to keep one's cool?

a lack of respect for other persons. or the inability to understand there is a honor code in journalism and there is a way to criticize. and as an athlete, understanding that trying your best isn't going to cut it and that's part of the game.


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PatGreen wrote:
or the inability to understand there is a honor code in journalism...

What do you mean by that?

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fly as hale wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
or the inability to understand there is a honor code in journalism...

What do you mean by that?

sports writers (especially national ones) tend to forget they are talking by people and they say nasty things and get pissed when those players won't give them interviews or stuff. when i say there is an honor code, i mean there once was. it's not right to just say "player x sucks." but that's how our culture has evolved, mostly via internet tough guy. "player x is having a bad game, an awful game, a bad season, isn't a playmaker..." all better ways of expressing the actual issue without sounding like an asshole and using fallacies like the ad hominem. really, it's just assholes who are good writers. and athletes are certainly not perfect but i'm just answering your question.


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PatGreen wrote:
sports writers (especially national ones) tend to forget they are talking by people and they say nasty things and get pissed when those players won't give them interviews or stuff. when i say there is an honor code, i mean there once was. it's not right to just say "player x sucks." but that's how our culture has evolved, mostly via internet tough guy. "player x is having a bad game, an awful game, a bad season, isn't a playmaker..." all better ways of expressing the actual issue without sounding like an asshole and using fallacies like the ad hominem. really, it's just assholes who are good writers. and athletes are certainly not perfect but i'm just answering your question.

Yeah I definitely agree. There is a lack of respect. People assume all because these guys make a lot of money they can't mess up or can't dish it back when reporters are running their mouths.

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fly as hale wrote:
Yeah I definitely agree. There is a lack of respect. People assume all because these guys make a lot of money they can't mess up or can't dish it back when reporters are running their mouths.

the other half is that the writers should be saying things that the athletes don't get to fire back about. part of being a pro is shutting up when people say thing about you that you don't like. it's that many sportscasters cross that line and athletes start firing back.


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The sports media, in general, feel more important than they actually are.

They're there to tell us what happened, and what they observed. I get that they need to provide their opinions as well, but they get this crazy idea that they actually have some kind of influence over the team.

Except in rare cases, they do not.


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Squanto wrote:
The sports media, in general, feel more important than they actually are.

They're there to tell us what happened, and what they observed. I get that they need to provide their opinions as well, but they get this crazy idea that they actually have some kind of influence over the team.

Except in rare cases, they do not.

But they saw the replay and are experts now.

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It means they are sick of their fucking faces just like I get sick of your posts and you get sick of mine. No different.

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It means that sometimes, the media oversteps their boundaries, which now include the center square of the Sabres locker room.

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