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fly as hale
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:29 pm 
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For real. How can they be so rigid in calling high sticks and shooting the puck over the glass, but determining a hit to the head is a judgment call? I know it's a more complicated issue, but jesus... Throw the book at anyone who commits a moronic, dangerous play.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:37 pm 
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
The problem I have with it is that the NHL's disciplinary office tries to judge intent, which is difficult. We don't care about intent on high sticks, and we shouldn't on headshots.

a 4 minute penalty is not the same as a suspension. no money is being lost.

a bad high stick might see you with a couple stitches. a bad shot to head might cost a career.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:19 pm 
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PatGreen wrote:
a bad high stick might see you with a couple stitches. a bad shot to head might cost a career.

But isn't that more reason for the NHL to implement a no-tolerance policy with head shots, instead of making judgment calls on whether there was intent or not?

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fly as hale wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
a bad high stick might see you with a couple stitches. a bad shot to head might cost a career.

But isn't that more reason for the NHL to implement a no-tolerance policy with head shots, instead of making judgment calls on whether there was intent or not?

suspension is not for accidents. players lose pay and value that way.

accidents will happen. any nhl player will tell you that they expect at some point to get hurt on a hockey play. the nhl can't just go around suspending people for anything. like the doug murray hit last week (the first one) the guy he hit was falling down and ended up taking some shoulder high. had he stayed upright, that hit was mid chest and not talked about.

i could see an automatic suspension for any time an elbow gets to the head, because an elbow should never be that high in contact, though.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:11 pm 
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PatGreen wrote:
fly as hale wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
a bad high stick might see you with a couple stitches. a bad shot to head might cost a career.

But isn't that more reason for the NHL to implement a no-tolerance policy with head shots, instead of making judgment calls on whether there was intent or not?

suspension is not for accidents. players lose pay and value that way.

accidents will happen. any nhl player will tell you that they expect at some point to get hurt on a hockey play. the nhl can't just go around suspending people for anything. like the doug murray hit last week (the first one) the guy he hit was falling down and ended up taking some shoulder high. had he stayed upright, that hit was mid chest and not talked about.

i could see an automatic suspension for any time an elbow gets to the head, because an elbow should never be that high in contact, though.



They can't allow that mindset to continue, that's what they are doing now and you have morons like Campbell trying too read peoples minds with a weggie board and a can of crack. "Chara's never been suspended before *sniff* he's not thinking about hurting him *inhale*." LOL And then you have crap heads like Avery and Cooke claiming that they are innocent time after time after time after time after time. So it's time to be tough.

They just have too throw the book at everybody, that way it wont happen. And if a guy who accidentally did it gets suspended 10 games well that's tough. But if players keep their elbows tucked in, their sticks down, their knees in, and don't board or blindside nobody will get suspended. If they do, then they get the mandatory games. It's just soooo simple, they just need to DO IT.

Of course weird things will happen. Like if a guy is falling backwards over another player and his elbow catches a guy on the chin, I mean come on common sense can overrule some stuff liek that.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:50 pm 
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If it's a two minute penalty regardless, and each incident is reviewed by the league, that at least does a little bit to mete out "unfair" suspensions and fines for accidental hits to the head. Problem is, the NHL has shown no ability to consistently do anything.

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