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 Post subject: Re: Gerbacity
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:45 pm 
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Gerbe wont score 30 goals. Come on now.

Really... How can you be so sure? If you compare Gerbe to guys like Martin St.Louis , Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri... Gerbe is having a way better roookie season and all three of those guys have had 30 goal + seasons.

So do you think since Gerbe is having a better rookie season that he could potentially be better than those three players?

I do, the reason's are:
1. He's having a way better second half of the season, opposed to his slow start. It's a lot tougher to play good later in the season than earlier.

2. I think he plays a more physical pestering style than all three of those players.Which cause a lot of chances for him and his linemates.

3. He can take a check for a small guy (Height) 5'5". He weighs more than than Gionta and St.Louis. Gerbe weighs in at 178 Lbs, that's a wrecking ball IMO. Which makes him able to play in the dirty area's in front of the net and such.

4. He's a very smart two way player, He is learning the NHL game and Lindys system very well. He also seems to get smarter and tougher as the season goes on. Look for him to be a top six forward next year going 30 30 +10

5. Let's face it Gerbacity has the eye of the tiger!



Probably because he has 26 points and shows no real sign of impressive talent other than working hard, and just because he's had a little mean streak with points and hard work we're penciling him in for 30 goals and becoming the next St. Louis. Holy shit, guys.

No one thought St. Louis was going to be a PPG player either, so be quiet then.

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 Post subject: Re: Gerbacity
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:26 pm 
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he looks better every game, im starting to buy in. not to the 30 goals, but 20? 25? possibly.

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 Post subject: Re: Gerbacity
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he looks better every game, im starting to buy in. not to the 30 goals, but 20? 25? possibly.

I'm not talking this year, I'm talking career. You really don't think he will ever eclipse 30?
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Probably because he has 26 points and shows no real sign of impressive talent other than working hard, and just because he's had a little mean streak with points and hard work we're penciling him in for 30 goals and becoming the next St. Louis. Holy shit, guys.


Shows no real sign of impressive talent?

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Take out the first half of the season. Double his second half. Where would that put him?

Am I guaranteeing 30 goals? No. But is it really that far out of the realm of possibility?

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Carubba Kaleta wrote:
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he looks better every game, im starting to buy in. not to the 30 goals, but 20? 25? possibly.

I'm not talking this year, I'm talking career. You really don't think he will ever eclipse 30?


i dont think so, but i cant see the future.

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Amazing how things aren't always what they seem, right? I mean, just a few months ago, we were ready to throw in the towel on this season and this team. And look where we are now.

I view Nathan Gerbe's case much the same way. I know it's difficult for some to imagine him posting a 30 goal season, but consider this:

Here are Gerbe's stats so far in his rookie season.

GP___G____A_____P
57___14___13___27

And here is certain 5'7" right wing's stats from his rookie NHL season.

GP___G____A____P
58___12___13___25

Anybody know who that is?

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Amazing how things aren't always what they seem, right? I mean, just a few months ago, we were ready to throw in the towel on this season and this team. And look where we are now.

I view Nathan Gerbe's case much the same way. I know it's difficult for some to imagine him posting a 30 goal season, but consider this:

Here are Gerbe's stats so far in his rookie season.

GP___G____A_____P
57___14___13___27

And here is certain 5'7" right wing's stats from his rookie NHL season.

GP___G____A____P
58___12___13___25

Anybody know who that is?


That's Brian Gionta, btw Gionta had 1 outstanding season which was his only >30 goal season. He is a solid 25 goal scorer though.
In my opinion Gerbe has the potential to score 30 in a full season, but only with good to great linemates on a good team.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:19 pm 
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30 goals for Gerbe.

Anyone wanna bet that he DOES?

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Carubba Kaleta wrote:
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Gerbe wont score 30 goals. Come on now.

Really... How can you be so sure? If you compare Gerbe to guys like Martin St.Louis , Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri... Gerbe is having a way better roookie season and all three of those guys have had 30 goal + seasons.

So do you think since Gerbe is having a better rookie season that he could potentially be better than those three players?

I do, the reason's are:
1. He's having a way better second half of the season, opposed to his slow start. It's a lot tougher to play good later in the season than earlier.

2. I think he plays a more physical pestering style than all three of those players.Which cause a lot of chances for him and his linemates.

3. He can take a check for a small guy (Height) 5'5". He weighs more than than Gionta and St.Louis. Gerbe weighs in at 178 Lbs, that's a wrecking ball IMO. Which makes him able to play in the dirty area's in front of the net and such.

4. He's a very smart two way player, He is learning the NHL game and Lindys system very well. He also seems to get smarter and tougher as the season goes on. Look for him to be a top six forward next year going 30 30 +10

5. Let's face it Gerbacity has the eye of the tiger!



Probably because he has 26 points and shows no real sign of impressive talent other than working hard, and just because he's had a little mean streak with points and hard work we're penciling him in for 30 goals and becoming the next St. Louis. Holy shit, guys.

No one thought St. Louis was going to be a PPG player either, so be quiet then.

OOOHHH. So tough.

And on to the actual argument, Gerbe doesn't show any signs of impressive talent. As Irony points out, he has poor shot selection. His puck handling/deking abilities aren't very impressive.

To say he'll be a Vanek like goal scorer after not even a full 82 games (and a non impressive stat count) is... Stupid to say the least.

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 Post subject: Re: Gerbacity
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:26 pm 
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hes got skills. sadly, ive seen the results in person and was victimized by them. but part of me thinks he played a certain way to get to where he is, and its worked. and the only league it wont work as often is the NHL. but can he evolve? his recent tear says he can. but anyone expecting these kinds of numbers over his last 30 games to continue on through his career.. well.. thats a mighty tall order (no pun)

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Exactly. His skill set isn't a 30 goals scorer caliber. He works hard but saying 30 goals when he hasn't even hit 20 is retarded.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Carubba Kaleta wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Gerbe wont score 30 goals. Come on now.

Really... How can you be so sure? If you compare Gerbe to guys like Martin St.Louis , Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri... Gerbe is having a way better roookie season and all three of those guys have had 30 goal + seasons.

So do you think since Gerbe is having a better rookie season that he could potentially be better than those three players?

I do, the reason's are:
1. He's having a way better second half of the season, opposed to his slow start. It's a lot tougher to play good later in the season than earlier.

2. I think he plays a more physical pestering style than all three of those players.Which cause a lot of chances for him and his linemates.

3. He can take a check for a small guy (Height) 5'5". He weighs more than than Gionta and St.Louis. Gerbe weighs in at 178 Lbs, that's a wrecking ball IMO. Which makes him able to play in the dirty area's in front of the net and such.

4. He's a very smart two way player, He is learning the NHL game and Lindys system very well. He also seems to get smarter and tougher as the season goes on. Look for him to be a top six forward next year going 30 30 +10

5. Let's face it Gerbacity has the eye of the tiger!



Probably because he has 26 points and shows no real sign of impressive talent other than working hard, and just because he's had a little mean streak with points and hard work we're penciling him in for 30 goals and becoming the next St. Louis. Holy shit, guys.

No one thought St. Louis was going to be a PPG player either, so be quiet then.

OOOHHH. So tough.

And on to the actual argument, Gerbe doesn't show any signs of impressive talent. As Irony points out, he has poor shot selection. His puck handling/deking abilities aren't very impressive.

To say he'll be a Vanek like goal scorer after not even a full 82 games (and a non impressive stat count) is... Stupid to say the least.
I never said Gerbe could, don't put words into my mouth.

And the last part, can you never tell when someone is joking around taking friendly jabs, apparently not.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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 Post subject: Re: Gerbacity
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No one thought St. Louis was going to be a PPG player either, so be quiet then.


Though the 30 goals comment wasn't directed towards you, this is saying Gerbe can be St. Louis. Which isn't really probable.

And "friendly jabs" isn't "so be quiet." That's called being a "douche".

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No one thought St. Louis was going to be a PPG player either, so be quiet then.


Though the 30 goals comment wasn't directed towards you, this is saying Gerbe can be St. Louis. Which isn't really probable.

And "friendly jabs" isn't "so be quiet." That's called being a "douche".

You look at rookie season and anything can happen, can't dismiss this claim when it took St. Louis 292 games before he got his first PPG season.

Whatever, you've been douchey before so I don't care. You still can't tell the difference.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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It's a safe bet Gerbe wont break 30... He's had a streak and most of his goals are from said streak.

And I stand by my claim "so be quiet" (or in other words STFU) is being douchey, and not friendly. But I can't tell the difference, apparently.

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Nope you can't, because a simple be quiet isn't a FUCK YOU or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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st louis produced more in college and produced rapidly once he was moved to tampa bay in 2000.

no one knows what gerbes going to do. but i doubt hes going to come close to eclipsing st louis.

despite gerbes serious tear and hot streak, hes still under half a point per game, and his shooting percentage is low (but climbing)

just because the two players are small, doesnt mean they will have the same success on the same scale. gerbe will probably top out at 45-50 points. which is a hell of a lot better then i initially thought.

whats next, are we going to compare him to theo fluery? cause if that happens, ill flip shit.

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whats next, are we going to compare him to theo fluery? cause if that happens, ill flip shit.

We can if you want.

The thing is, similar sized players who have similar stats during the same similar time frame in their career is all we can base anything on really, unless their play shows otherwise.

We all think Ennis is probably going to be a Briere or better type player, and his stats this year are better than Brieres first three seasons, which equated to 82 games and only 25 points.

His stats are what Stamkos had his rookie season, actually better.

Who knows how those players are actually going to be and how they will produce. It's taken Vanek 5 years to really become the most complete player on our team. And he's in the top 25 for points this year.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.
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ennis isnt stamkos. stamkos isnt ennis.

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