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X-pensfan
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:53 am 
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would you start Enroth over a healthy Miller?


I don't know the exact numbers, but his career stats vs the Penguins are pretty awful, in short, the Pens kind of own Miller. Even during his Vezina season last year they had his number. While Enroth is still befuddling shooters with his unique style and lightning fast reflexes.

If the Sabres meet the Pens in the playoffs, I think there certainly would be a an interesting goalie debate to talk about. And it's nice to know that they have an option like Enroth if things go badly for Ryan Miller.

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It's hard to argue against that logic now that Enroth has reached the 12 game plateau for his career.


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DieHardFan wrote:
It's hard to argue against that logic now that Enroth has reached the 12 game plateau for his career.

I see what you did there. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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3 potential answers.

1. No.

2. Not a chance.

3. No way in hell.

Ryan Miller is your number 1 goaltender. Period. If he's healthy, he goes. Period. What happens in the past has no bearing on what might happen in the future.


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Squanto wrote:
3 potential answers.

1. No.

2. Not a chance.

3. No way in hell.

Ryan Miller is your number 1 goaltender. Period. If he's healthy, he goes. Period. What happens in the past has no bearing on what might happen in the future.


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Ryan Millers issues with the Penguins haven't been his fault.

Since the start of the 07-08 season, the Sabres have found a lot of ways to play garbage hockey against the Pens.

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I'd start Miller. Enroth has been great. But he has like 12 or 13 games of total NHL experience.

I really hope Miller is between the pipes again soon. The next three games are against good teams.

Tampa, Phil and Columbus. Kaleta coming back any time soon, Dorsett needs his a$$ kicked again.

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I would also say NO if it were any other team but the Penguins. It's certainly not all his fault, but I don't recall Miller eve stealing a game from them either.

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I'm sorry, but you don't start a backup according to specific matchup. You roll your starter unless he's hurt, no questions asked.

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X-pensfan wrote:
I would also say NO if it were any other team but the Penguins. It's certainly not all his fault, but I don't recall Miller eve stealing a game from them either.

OMGZ IMMA PENZ FANBOUY!!!

Why would we start Enroth in a playoff series against a top team? He's played 12 games, that doesn't warrant a playoff series against Pittsburgh. We'll role with Miller.

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I would also say NO if it were any other team but the Penguins. It's certainly not all his fault, but I don't recall Miller eve stealing a game from them either.

OMGZ IMMA PENZ FANBOUY!!!


When have you ever seen the Sabres play well against the Penguins since they lost their unmentionable co captains?

We used to beat the shit out of the Pens with Miller between the pipes. But when this team got wimpy, they struggled to match Pittsburgh's intensity, which makes Miller a side casualty; not a cause.

The Sabres are overcoming a lot of the things that they struggled with against the Penguins in terms of how they play the game. It'd be interesting to see how that series would shake out.

That said, I don't think the Penguins make it out of the first round without Crosby.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
I would also say NO if it were any other team but the Penguins. It's certainly not all his fault, but I don't recall Miller eve stealing a game from them either.

OMGZ IMMA PENZ FANBOUY!!!

Why would we start Enroth in a playoff series against a top team? He's played 12 games, that doesn't warrant a playoff series against Pittsburgh. We'll role with Miller.



because the Penguins appear to have a great deal of confidence against Miller, and Enroth might be able too get them thinking about their shots more. For lack of a better example it's kind of like how some baseball teams have a lineup that is built to succeed against certain handedness or styles of pitchers. So, maybe you put your knuckle ball guy in there in place of your cy young guy to eff with their heads and keep them off balance. sure it takes balls to do that, but I think the logic is sound.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
I would also say NO if it were any other team but the Penguins. It's certainly not all his fault, but I don't recall Miller eve stealing a game from them either.

OMGZ IMMA PENZ FANBOUY!!!




That said, I don't think the Penguins make it out of the first round without Crosby.



Me either, their power play is a pathetic joke.

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X-pensfan wrote:
because the Penguins appear to have a great deal of confidence against Miller, and Enroth might be able too get them thinking about their shots more. For lack of a better example it's kind of like how some baseball teams have a lineup that is built to succeed against certain handedness or styles of pitchers. So, maybe you put your knuckle ball guy in there in place of your cy young guy to eff with their heads and keep them off balance. sure it takes balls to do that, but I think the logic is sound.


That works in baseball, but it doesn't fly as much in hockey. Play your best players all the time.


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Squanto wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
because the Penguins appear to have a great deal of confidence against Miller, and Enroth might be able too get them thinking about their shots more. For lack of a better example it's kind of like how some baseball teams have a lineup that is built to succeed against certain handedness or styles of pitchers. So, maybe you put your knuckle ball guy in there in place of your cy young guy to eff with their heads and keep them off balance. sure it takes balls to do that, but I think the logic is sound.


That works in baseball, but it doesn't fly as much in hockey. Play your best players all the time.




yeah, but miller still isn't practicing.

so do you go with a goalie thats getting hot, or with the elite goaltender who will be coming back from an injury, potentially on little to no practice?


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Do you go with a rookie goaltender with no experience in the Stanley Cup Playoffs that choked on two straight first-round blowouts (series losses of 4-1 and 4-0) in the AHL or a goalie who comes back with great stats after a long rest who is a proven playoff contender?

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mechaphil wrote:
Do you go with a rookie goaltender with no experience in the Stanley Cup Playoffs that choked on two straight first-round blowouts (series losses of 4-1 and 4-0) in the AHL or a goalie who comes back with great stats after a long rest who is a proven playoff contender?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Leighton
you never know what a your third tier goalie is capable of...


i'm not saying we don't go with miller, i'd love to have miller in, but i'd hate for miller to go into the playoffs with sitting for 6? games beforehand. it makes me a bit nervous. that's all i'm saying.


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Situations like Leighton are the exception, not the rule.


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which doesn't mean there aren't more exceptions


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