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patkane88
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:27 pm 
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I don't get it, either suspend anyone that hits a guy in the head or don't, plain and fucking simple.

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Squanto
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
I'm really confused now...more than usual.


It's just the usual MO from the NHL. Nobody finds out about exceptions to rules until after those exceptions become a reason in the future that a punishment shouldn't be applied.


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adambuffalo
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It was a good hit. Questionable interference call. Wonder how many people who are here complaining about the hit also praised Cambell's hit on Umberger? From what people are saying about Torres' hit, Campbell should have been gone at least 10 games. I don't like to see guys get seriously hurt, but it isn't always the guy hitting at fault.

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BlueandYellow
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Maybe Torres and Downie should take notes from Grier. Deliver an amazing hit, with no question of dirtiness or suspension.

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adambuffalo wrote:
It was a good hit. Questionable interference call. Wonder how many people who are here complaining about the hit also praised Cambell's hit on Umberger? From what people are saying about Torres' hit, Campbell should have been gone at least 10 games. I don't like to see guys get seriously hurt, but it isn't always the guy hitting at fault.


Please.

I can provide you 4 solid camera angles that show clear shoulder to shoulder contact between Campbell and Umberger. No direct head contact. Campbell's hit was perfectly clean and legal under any standard.

Torres on Seabrook was Torres' shoulder to Seabrook's head. Completely different scenario.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing this bullshit dredged up ever time.


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PatGreen
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Squanto wrote:
Please.

I can provide you 4 solid camera angles that show clear shoulder to shoulder contact between Campbell and Umberger. No direct head contact. Campbell's hit was perfectly clean and legal under any standard.

Torres on Seabrook was Torres' shoulder to Seabrook's head. Completely different scenario.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing this bullshit dredged up ever time.

i don't think campbell only hit the shoulder. i think the initial contact was at the chest/shoulder, though, and that's the important part.

but i still haven't seen where torres made first contact with seabrook's head. there have been no stills posted or anything. and the videos i've tried to capture it on don't show it because it happened too fast.


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BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:00 pm 
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Just because Campbell's hit was a big hit doesn't mean head hits are the same thing. Campbell kept it clean, Umberger got hit shoulder to shoulder. People post this comparison all over, and quite frankly, it's false.

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Squanto
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I'll have to export the HD youtube clip to get it. It's between single second marks so I can't go frame by frame in the one I have looked at.


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PatGreen
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Squanto wrote:
I'll have to export the HD youtube clip to get it. It's between single second marks so I can't go frame by frame in the one I have looked at.

i'd appreciate it. i still don't think it was dirty, even if he does make initial contact with the head, because to me, it was not a headhunting play. but i would like to finally know if he did indeed make initial contact with the head.


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BlueandYellow
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I saw it, I think it's shoulder to shoulder.

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PatGreen
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BlueandYellow wrote:
I saw it, I think it's shoulder to shoulder.

which hit are you talking about?


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BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:17 pm 
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Campbell hit.

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PatGreen
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:21 pm 
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everyone's seen that 100 times. we were talking about the torres hit.


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PatGreen
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resurrected to add that bieksa was just hit by bickell with almost the EXACT same hit. 100% mirror image, almost.


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Squanto
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PatGreen wrote:
resurrected to add that bieksa was just hit by bickell with almost the EXACT same hit. 100% mirror image, almost.


Saw that. It's apparently legal since the league has renamed that area of the ice the Thunderdome.


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PatGreen
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i did think bickell left his feet a little bit, but you know me...hockey play. i saw shoulder to shoulder with head follow through clearly on that one.


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Squanto
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I'll take your word. I didn't give it a really good look, just one replay. Was trying to get the house picked up a bit.


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PatGreen
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bieksa is one friggin tough customer


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Squanto
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Oh, and in case this got missed:
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