It is currently Thu May 28, 2026 3:41 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 80 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Author Message
Sabresfansince1980
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:55 pm 
Offline
Star Sniper
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:45 pm
Posts: 3021
Location: So far away
Boychuk's love tap?? That was a hefty chop right to the knee, but anyway...

I started the thread and thought it was legit question because Kunitz just got a game for an elbow. I also happen to think that any intentional elbow should be up for possible suspension. I didn't expect Richards to actually get suspended though.


Top
 Profile  
 
Squanto
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:19 pm 
Offline
Carlos Spicy-Wiener
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:31 am
Posts: 9240
Location: FAP TURBO
sabresEH wrote:
LMAO, you guys blew this way out of proportion again. Boychuk's love tap last year got the same response. If used properly the elbow can be a weapon, again in this particular situation, it wasn't. If it was even remotely close to being a suspendable play, they would have talked about it today on TSN. The only incidents they talked about were Kennedy's leg kick and someone's late hit(can't remember who it was). The only people who seem to think its suspension worthy are you guys. We tend to get heated during emotional games, last year's playoffs, and the gold medal game for example. But the fact of the matter is, the elbow was never intended to injure Kaleta which is what suspensions are based on. Was the elbow a penalty, yeah, is it dangerous, yeah but not suspendable.


My response to this has been completely rational, not driven by emotion. Any time the elbow is intentionally used to strike an opponent in the head, as this was, it should be considered for suspension.

Chris Kunitz just got suspended for what? INTENTIONALLY ELBOWING A PLAYER IN THE HEAD. And I'm pretty sure that he only got a 2 minute penalty on that play.

In closing, you're about 400% wrong on this. I bid you good day sir.


Top
 Profile  
 
ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:21 pm 
Offline
Captain Dynasty
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:01 pm
Posts: 15390
Location: michigan
boosh

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
sabresEH
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:32 pm 
Offline
Garbage Man
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:24 am
Posts: 991
Location: Kelowna BC
Squanto wrote:

Chris Kunitz just got suspended for what? INTENTIONALLY ELBOWING A PLAYER IN THE HEAD. And I'm pretty sure that he only got a 2 minute penalty on that play.

In closing, you're about 400% wrong on this. I bid you good day sir.

Yes intentional hit to the head. I still feel Richards' was in self defense. Obviously others view it differently but I guess the NHL felt the same way I did. So 400% wrong is probably a bit of an overstatement.

As for the love tap comment, that was for the lulz, it was a good hack but not suspendable and also irrelevant anyways.

_________________
Driver of the Tyler Ennis Bandwagon, Ridin' shotgun on the Tyler Myers Bandwagon, chillin' on the Luke Adam Bandwagon


Eh


Top
 Profile  
 
fly as hale
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:06 pm 
Offline
Mrs. Miller
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:02 pm
Posts: 7998
Location: Orchard Park
You are missing the point. It shouldn't matter if it's intentional or not. It's dangerous and stupid, and if the NHL wants all of this crap to stop then they need to suspend players regardless of intent. That's how you "send a message", as everyone is clamoring for the NHL to do.

_________________
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hockey Night in Buffalo


Top
 Profile  
 
X-pensfan
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:38 pm 
Offline
Star Sniper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 3668
Location: Pittsburgh
Wow so the league isn't even going to talk to Richard's about that? I haven't heard a peep about it, pretty insulting if they don't even address why there was not a suspension.

_________________
"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger


Top
 Profile  
 
PatGreen
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:46 pm 
Offline
PP Quarterback

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:55 pm
Posts: 1836
Edler just made the SAME EXACT play at the end of the second and the announcers are talking about how dirty and disgusting it is.


Top
 Profile  
 
AudSabres
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:53 pm 
Offline
Superstar Goalie
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:35 pm
Posts: 4998
Location: In your head, producing very weird thoughts.
X-pensfan wrote:
Wow so the league isn't even going to talk to Richard's about that? I haven't heard a peep about it, pretty insulting if they don't even address why there was not a suspension.


Well, if the league isn't going to do anything about it, we'll just play the same game we played in game 4. Philly's game. So funny how they preach and play that system as their way of life. But when the Sabres started to play the same style against them, they couldn't counter it and lost their shit over it. Let them take the retarded penalties and even if Pronger comes in next game, let him play stupid and sit in the box. He'll be more of a liability than anything else. This team isn't afraid of Chrissie Pronger or Bitch-face Richards.

Fuck the Philthy Flyers and their god damn fans.

_________________
If it's a tight squeeze, spit on it! - NyI

He's a middling AHL player who had the good fortune of a drunk arbitrator. - The Squanto re: Tim Kennedy


Top
 Profile  
 
X-pensfan
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:00 am 
Offline
Star Sniper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 3668
Location: Pittsburgh
PatGreen wrote:
Edler just made the SAME EXACT play at the end of the second and the announcers are talking about how dirty and disgusting it is.


And that's what happens when the NHL shows favortism and is inconsistant. The leadership is so bad in the NHL it's a joke, a bad joke.

At least Roenick compared it too the Richards elbow last night, and Jones and that other retard had a look on their face that read, "Don't draw attention to it, Comcast owns this station and the Flyers!".

_________________
"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger


Top
 Profile  
 
CriminallyVu1gar
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:35 am 
Offline
Captain Dynasty
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:56 pm
Posts: 16859
sabresEH wrote:
LMAO, you guys blew this way out of proportion again. Boychuk's love tap last year got the same response. If used properly the elbow can be a weapon, again in this particular situation, it wasn't. If it was even remotely close to being a suspendable play, they would have talked about it today on TSN. The only incidents they talked about were Kennedy's leg kick and someone's late hit(can't remember who it was). The only people who seem to think its suspension worthy are you guys. We tend to get heated during emotional games, last year's playoffs, and the gold medal game for example. But the fact of the matter is, the elbow was never intended to injure Kaleta which is what suspensions are based on. Was the elbow a penalty, yeah, is it dangerous, yeah but not suspendable.


Boychuk stepped on Vanek's leg in the corner. That's what caused him to miss time, not the slash.

_________________
Proud LGBTQQ Individual


Top
 Profile  
 
Skyline_BNR34
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:54 am 
Offline
Cup Winner
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:34 pm
Posts: 13019
Location: North Carolina
sabresEH wrote:
Pat i agree an Elbow can hurt, but its not a weapon. When thrown at someone's face at high speeds yeah sure it can really hurt someone. But just standing there throwing it up in self protection is hardly a weapon. I've played this game for 17 years. Some of you are fans who have never played the game and are basing your reactions based on a replay.
Just let me ask you this. If kaleta threw the elbow, if kaleta was given a 5 minute major, if kaleta was suspened, would you agree with the NHL's decision?

You say you've played this game and are saying an elbow isn't a weapon. I'm going to say this.

Elbow pads aren't protective on the outside when delivering a hit, they protect your elbow since they have a plastic cup over your elbow that protrudes 2 inches away from your body.

That on your elbow is a weapon. End of story, it's hitting someone with a blunt object, plain and simple, and yes, I play the game too, and elbows are not to be messed with.

Image

_________________
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

Rud wrote:
As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


Top
 Profile  
 
BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:58 am 
Offline
Hart Winner
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:42 pm
Posts: 9770
Location: Buffalo, NY
There's a harder side on the outside of the elbow pad. If anything it amplifies the damage done by an elbow.

_________________
"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.


Top
 Profile  
 
backthatSASSup
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:00 am 
Offline
PP Quarterback
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:44 pm
Posts: 1549
Location: BuffaLOVE
I look at it like high sticking. You are responsible for your stick at all times. If you put your stick up in self defense and accidentally clip someone in the face, 2 or 4 minute penalty depending on the circumstances.

Elbows, in nature, are worse than an accidental high sticking, though. You 100% absolutely should always be aware of what you are doing with your body.


Top
 Profile  
 
BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:02 am 
Offline
Hart Winner
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:42 pm
Posts: 9770
Location: Buffalo, NY
sabresEH wrote:
Squanto wrote:

Chris Kunitz just got suspended for what? INTENTIONALLY ELBOWING A PLAYER IN THE HEAD. And I'm pretty sure that he only got a 2 minute penalty on that play.

In closing, you're about 400% wrong on this. I bid you good day sir.

Yes intentional hit to the head. I still feel Richards' was in self defense. Obviously others view it differently but I guess the NHL felt the same way I did. So 400% wrong is probably a bit of an overstatement.

As for the love tap comment, that was for the lulz, it was a good hack but not suspendable and also irrelevant anyways.

Self defense? You tend to brace yourself or try to dodge a check instead of elbowing some guy in the chops.

_________________
"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.


Top
 Profile  
 
Skyline_BNR34
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:06 am 
Offline
Cup Winner
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:34 pm
Posts: 13019
Location: North Carolina
backthatSASSup wrote:
I look at it like high sticking. You are responsible for your stick at all times. If you put your stick up in self defense and accidentally clip someone in the face, 2 or 4 minute penalty depending on the circumstances.

Elbows, in nature, are worse than an accidental high sticking, though. You 100% absolutely should always be aware of what you are doing with your body.

That's true, even though sticks hurt like a bitch also.

_________________
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

Rud wrote:
As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


Top
 Profile  
 
sabresindc
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:45 am 
Offline
Captain Clutch
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:58 pm
Posts: 6146
Location: Southern most point of Northern Virginia
I guarantee the reason why the NHL did not suspend Richards for this was because the victim in this case was Kaleta.


Richards need to shut his fucking pie hole too. The Sabres are getting away with murder? I do believe Kaleta should make sure Richards know verse 36!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Image

_________________
sabretoothpick wrote:
Yhoshi wrote:
wollt ihr die sabres oben sehen müsst ihr die tabelle drehn.

It's a phrase that basically means, if you wanna see the Sabres at the top, turn the rankings.


Top
 Profile  
 
X-pensfan
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:09 pm 
Offline
Star Sniper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 3668
Location: Pittsburgh
sabresindc wrote:
I guarantee the reason why the NHL did not suspend Richards for this was because the victim in this case was Kaleta.


Richards need to shut his fucking pie hole too. The Sabres are getting away with murder? I do believe Kaleta should make sure Richards know verse 36!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Image



And that's why those fat cats like Campbell and that little weezel Buttman are total asshats. Fucking favortism when it comes to player safety? I hope little baby Campbell gets a righteous elbow real soon.

_________________
"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger


Top
 Profile  
 
Displaced Fan
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:52 pm 
Offline
Superstar Goalie
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:34 am
Posts: 4097
BlueandYellow wrote:
Self defense? You tend to brace yourself or try to dodge a check instead of elbowing some guy in the chops.


I don't know man. When I see my kids coming I stick out my leg and catch them in the head with my boot. Just saying. We all have different reactions.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
fly as hale
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:36 pm 
Offline
Mrs. Miller
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:02 pm
Posts: 7998
Location: Orchard Park
backthatSASSup wrote:
I look at it like high sticking. You are responsible for your stick at all times. If you put your stick up in self defense and accidentally clip someone in the face, 2 or 4 minute penalty depending on the circumstances.

Elbows, in nature, are worse than an accidental high sticking, though. You 100% absolutely should always be aware of what you are doing with your body.

Exactly.

_________________
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hockey Night in Buffalo


Top
 Profile  
 
BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:37 pm 
Offline
Hart Winner
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:42 pm
Posts: 9770
Location: Buffalo, NY
Displaced Fan wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Self defense? You tend to brace yourself or try to dodge a check instead of elbowing some guy in the chops.


I don't know man. When I see my kids coming I stick out my leg and catch them in the head with my boot. Just saying. We all have different reactions.

:lol:

_________________
"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 80 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron