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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 4:33 pm 
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Why don't you get mad at the people who were saying that Philadelphia fans are cocks throughout the playoffs. Seems like way more of a generalization what I said which was merely that I'm sick of seeing McNabb paraphernalia around because Syracuse doesn't have anything better to get excited about and can't seem to figure out which professional sports teams it's geographically closest to. Legitimate comment, which pretty much every displaced fan on here has said (in one form or another) about the teams that are prevalent in their current locale.


Hey now...don't bring me into this. :lol:

This topic is actually something that I've struggled with. Being military we move every few years and I find myself plopped into another market. I tried to like the Cannucks when I lived in Seattle, Tampa when I was in Florida, when I lived in Texas...no...fuck the Stars, and now I'm in Colorado and I have REALLY tried to get invested in the Avs but have failed. I don't think it's wrong to be a fan of another team but it's got to be confusing. It's easier if the teams are in different conferences though. Personally I tried to be a fan of the local teams and just couldn't find much to keep my attention. I guess it's Buffalo or nothing for me but if you like another team, whatever....but you better not sit on the fence when Buffalo plays them. Hate them with everything you have for that one game...then go back and have make up hockey after. :lol:

In the playoffs I watch a lot of the other matchups but it's out of my love for hockey rather than a particular team. Those teams that are playing against a team I hate though will be rooted for mildly.

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Caro and Alex expanded upon my thoughts the best.

It's not the bandwagoners once your team is out that confuse me, it's the people who would root for two different teams in the same league on the same level. Same highs, same lows, same enthusiasm. That's what confuses me and what I don't agree with.


It's weird, like in the NFL I'm all Bills, but I live in Wisconsin, so I've become a Packer fan by osmosis over the course of 11 years, now I don't get as excited about Packer football as I do Bills football, but I was pretty satisfied when the Pack won the superbowl this past year.

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:03 pm 
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I'm not sure how you could root for two different teams in the same league with the same intensity. I definitely have second-favorites in hockey and baseball (Montreal used to be my #2 team in both sports, but alas, the Expos no longer exist), but I don't have the same intensity by any means. When The Sabres play the Habs, I'm 100% behind Buffalo, and when the Jays play the Mariners, I'm 100% behind Toronto.


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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Why don't you get mad at the people who were saying that Philadelphia fans are cocks throughout the playoffs. Seems like way more of a generalization what I said which was merely that I'm sick of seeing McNabb paraphernalia around because Syracuse doesn't have anything better to get excited about and can't seem to figure out which professional sports teams it's geographically closest to. Legitimate comment, which pretty much every displaced fan on here has said (in one form or another) about the teams that are prevalent in their current locale.

My comment didn't have anything to do with the quality of that fandom, so I have trouble seeing where the "you don't know him" card is applicable, nor did I actually make any sweeping generalizations in said status or the comments following (maybe about the Redskins). It's a nice assumption to make that I was somehow degrading that fandom and given my distaste for Syracuse's mangling of priorities (which is far more true than a "hatred of everything Syracuse") and perhaps contains some degree of truth if you move to college sports (as I do not understand rooting for an institution in which one never attended), but isn't accurate in this case.

It was chirping a bit (the friend I tagged in said status on FB and you here), but meant to be lighthearted and not an attack on anyone's fandom.


I actually have defended Philly fans in at least one thread I can think of, I will be glad to dig the thread up for you. I just don't see why it matters what team someone follows if there isn't a local sports team. Not everyone is interested in minor league sports. I know I'm really not. And there's really nothing wrong with having pride in one's city, which you always seem to nitpick that about Syracuse fans. I know you dislike Syracuse, but you have a lot of pride in Buffalo, and that's no different for Syracuse fans. Not everyone feels its their duty to follow the team closest to them geographically, so I'm not really seeing your point about that. Look at Tom, he's a Red Sux fan. ;)

Also, some people are just die hard college sports fans. Syracuse isn't the only city where people have a huge following of their college sports teams where people aren't alumni. Again, not really seeing why that matters. It gives cities something to be prideful in and cheer about. I loved being in Syracuse during March Madness. I thought it was really fun to see the city show their pride.

To me, your comment implied that he wasn't a genuine fan of the team and that he was only a fan because of Donovan McNabb, and that he would change his allegiance depending on where Donovan ended up. You can't tell me it wouldn't come off that way, especially coupled with your comment on Facebook.

Honestly, I'm just sick of the general attitude I feel this place exudes sometimes that some fans are inferior to others simply because they don't fit into this mold of their perceived perfect sports fan.


i know exactly what you are talking about. step inside the michigan state line (as in the state line, not the university) on a fall saturday. this state bleeds maize and blue.

man, i wish you all could take in a saturday afternoon in the fall in ann arbor on game day. just once. it would blow your mind.

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I'm not sure how you could root for two different teams in the same league with the same intensity. I definitely have second-favorites in hockey and baseball (Montreal used to be my #2 team in both sports, but alas, the Expos no longer exist), but I don't have the same intensity by any means. When The Sabres play the Habs, I'm 100% behind Buffalo, and when the Jays play the Mariners, I'm 100% behind Toronto.

Trust me, it happens. It boggles my mind, but it happens.

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It's not the bandwagoners once your team is out that confuse me, it's the people who would root for two different teams in the same league on the same level. Same highs, same lows, same enthusiasm. That's what confuses me and what I don't agree with.

Yeah, I know several people who are really big Caps fans, and when it was a possibility that we were going to play them in the 2nd round, they were all conflicted on who they wanted to win. I mean...what the hell is THAT.

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I think it's important to add here, even being "loyal" to "your team" is a pretty twisted concept all in all. How many of us actually know and are friends with the players on the teams we root for? And to reference the Jerry Seinfeld bit, in the era of free agency, with players switching teams as often as most Americans switch cars, it's kind of crazy to be loyal to a team when even the players aren't. Like he says, you're rooting for clothes. In a way, that's almost more bizarre than changing team preferences according to what players you like.


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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
I think it's important to add here, even being "loyal" to "your team" is a pretty twisted concept all in all. How many of us actually know and are friends with the players on the teams we root for? And to reference the Jerry Seinfeld bit, in the era of free agency, with players switching teams as often as most Americans switch cars, it's kind of crazy to be loyal to a team when even the players aren't. Like he says, you're rooting for clothes. In a way, that's almost more bizarre than changing team preferences according to what players you like.


I think you're rooting for a city and a fanbase.

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If no one on the team is from that city, and the majority of the players weren't even born in that country (yes, I know Kaleta is from Buffalo), how is it that team represents you? When you think about it, they're all just a bunch of mercenaries (or prostitutes) selling themselves to the highest bidder.


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And I'm just saying here, let's keep a bit of perspective on the whole idea of fan purity.


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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Stuuuuuuu wrote:
I think it's important to add here, even being "loyal" to "your team" is a pretty twisted concept all in all. How many of us actually know and are friends with the players on the teams we root for? And to reference the Jerry Seinfeld bit, in the era of free agency, with players switching teams as often as most Americans switch cars, it's kind of crazy to be loyal to a team when even the players aren't. Like he says, you're rooting for clothes. In a way, that's almost more bizarre than changing team preferences according to what players you like.


I think you're rooting for a city and a fanbase.


You just described college sports fanatics.


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It's not the bandwagoners once your team is out that confuse me, it's the people who would root for two different teams in the same league on the same level. Same highs, same lows, same enthusiasm. That's what confuses me and what I don't agree with.

Yeah, I know several people who are really big Caps fans, and when it was a possibility that we were going to play them in the 2nd round, they were all conflicted on who they wanted to win. I mean...what the hell is THAT.


A bingo!

To me, being a fan of two teams of equal fansmanship at the same time of the season and you get boners of equal size when the “Other” one of them win is kind of like cheating on your loved one. And if it is with the Flyers, Thrashers, Pens, Crosby, his lips or Sens (to name a few) that's like cheating on your loved one with your own brother or sister. Maybe even the family pet.

Shit just ain't right.

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Personally, I don't really see what the big deal is. Who cares if someone loves two teams with the same intensity? What if they grew up with a certain team and fell in love with that team, then moved elsewhere and fell in love with a new team? There's nothing wrong with rooting for two teams or being conflicted over which team you want to win. It's like saying I can't have more than one best friend. I have three people who I consider my best friend and love and care for them the same amount. Sports can be the same way, and it isn't really an issue.


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I disagree. And also, your face.

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Although I don't understand it, I don't think that it makes a person any less of a fan or anything like that...I just honestly don't get it. But I think that largely has to do with the fact that I was born and raised in Buffalo, so my allegiance to the Sabres goes beyond the hockey.

My friend is from Michigan and is a huge Red Wings fan, but since living in Buffalo he's become a Sabres fan too. He's still a Wings fan first and foremost, but one time I asked him who he'd root for if the Sabres and the Wings were ever in the Finals, and he said the Sabres because they never won a Cup before and he knows how much it would mean to the city if they did.

So maybe if I had lived in another city for a long period of time I would "get it" more.

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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:05 am 
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where in michigan is that jabroni from?

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I gotta admit, I do in fact feel like it makes one less of a fan.

And Airface, your comparison sucks. If you were to compare favorite PLAYERS to best friends, then you'd be on to something.

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Meh, I think my comparison works just fine. Being a fan of a sports team isn't comparable to marriage--though, I suppose, for many people it sometimes is. It's not as if being a fan of more than one sports team is "cheating". It's not. You cheer for two teams, fine. It's not like someone is thinking, "ooohh I'm cheering for [this team] but am cheering for [this team] behind the other team's back!!". It's a sport. If someone chooses to be a fan of two sports teams, then who are you to judge? It ain't no big thang.

I don't see how it makes someone less of a fan. If they support the organization and cheer just as hard as the rest of us, then they aren't any less of a fan than we are. They just happen to support two organizations instead of one.

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I don't think you can compare it to marriage, or friends or anything else. It's pretty much its own thing. This ain't like woman where two or three in the bed can be better......this is hockey.

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