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mechaphil
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Medical examiner reports cause of death as lethal, accidental mix of alcohol and oxycodone

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:46 pm 
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fuck, sorry to hear that it was preventable.


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ugh. oxy's can be dangerous as it is, you'd really expect someone taking them to know they shouldn't be drinking heavily while on them.


still very sad, but just stupid.


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It was reported that he was attending the NHL substance abuse program before he died. Poor guy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:35 pm 
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To defend Boogaard here, Taking things like oxy for pain, and having just 4 or 5 beers (a light night of drinking for a man his size) can cause liver and kidney failure. He may of just been sitting around watching tv having a few beers, beat up pretty bad and sore, and poped 2 pills not thinking, and wound up dead.

I feel horrible for the guy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:53 pm 
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sadly, mixing alcohol and oxy is how my grandma killed herself when i was a kid.

shits fucked up.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:03 pm 
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Damn shame this is. :(

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:47 pm 
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The problem with oxys is that they're pretty addicting. He probably popped the pills out of habit and didn't really think of the dangers. Very negligent, but still very sorry to hear.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:06 pm 
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Looks like Boogie's brother had a hand in this...

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A complaint filed Friday in Minneapolis says 24-year-old Aaron Boogaard gave his brother an Oxycodone pill the day of his death. Authorities said earlier that Derek Boogaard died of a mix of alcohol and Oxycodone


http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372268

I don't think anyone could imagine what the family is going through right now..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:30 pm 
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unless the brother sneaked it in a drink, he didn't play a hand in it. derek was a big boy and more than old enough to say no.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:28 pm 
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PatGreen wrote:
unless the brother sneaked it in a drink, he didn't play a hand in it. derek was a big boy and more than old enough to say no.


Not only did he give his brother a pill that he wasn't prescribed to have, it was a controlled substance. Derek may have been a big boy, but his brother still did something highly illegal, even if it wasn't the "one pill" that led to his death.


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i don't care if it was, the responsibility is on the person that knowingly took it.

just like if i leave my wallet on the hood of my car and it gets stolen, the person who took it is to blame even if i was stupid enough to leave it out.


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PatGreen wrote:
i don't care if it was, the responsibility is on the person that knowingly took it.

just like if i leave my wallet on the hood of my car and it gets stolen, the person who took it is to blame even if i was stupid enough to leave it out.

he might have been drunk enough not to notice it

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like i said, unless it was slipped to him


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Let's just say the Boogaard family is messed up.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:15 am 
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Messed up? What? Are we seriously saying that we've never taken medicine from a family member before?

Both brothers made a mistake, but they are not "messed up"

Hell I hate modern medicine and usually refuse to take pain killers because I feel it numbs everything but who hasn't done this?

It may be illegal, yes, but so is jaywalking.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:43 pm 
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Derek Boogaard was released from rehab the day before for abusing painkillers. Whether you think it's a serious offense or not, his brother gave him a CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE to abuse it. Boogaard used it for a night of partying and his brother knew his intent. It's not like he was in pain and used his mom's painkillers in the house (which is still illegal, but at least isn't really abusing the medicine).

Aaron Boogaard isn't getting charged in his death, but rather unlawfully distributing the oxy and tampering with the scene of a death. They said they can't prove that one pill was the one that led to Derek's demise, so he can't be charged with manslaughter. The title of the article is a little misleading, but I think the charges are completely founded. Giving oxy to your brother who is a drug addict is in no way like jaywalking. You've got to be fucking kidding me on that.

And Pat, you leaving your wallet out on the car is a terrible analogy. Aaron gave his brother the oxy for a night of partying. He gave a drug addict an oxy. That's really looking out for your brother. Your analogy would only work if a wallet was illegal to possess if you're not prescribed it and you distributed it illegally to a wallet addict who died and then you flushed the wallet down the toilet. He didn't leave the oxy in a medicine cabinet for Derek to steal from him, he GAVE him one pill.


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PatGreen
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i love how everyone in my generation perpetuates the idea that no one is responsible for their own actions.

i don't care if they charge the brother with illegally dispensing controlled substances. he did it, it's illegal.

he, however, did not make derek take it. derek took it of his own free will, as far as we know, which means the responsibility is on him.

the wallet analogy is good if you were to read the point i was making out of it, not the point you want to make out of it. if you do something wrong, it's your fucking fault, no ifs, ands, or buts. society didn't make him do it, i don't care if he's an addict or his daddy didn't love him, he knowingly took the pill by himself. his. fault.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:50 pm 
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Who the fuck is saying he made Derek take it and what does that matter anyway? He got charged with two things: unlawfully distributing a controlled substance and tampering with the scene of a death. No where was anyone saying he made Derek take the pill. I do think it's incredibly irresponsible to give a supposed recovering addict the very thing he's dangerously addicted to, but there's no charges for anything even remotely related.

Aaron could have been charged with manslaughter or homicide if they had proved that the pill he gave him was the one that contributed to his death, but they have no way of knowing if Derek had taken more on his own accord. But had they been able to prove it, the law makes drug dealers accountable. If you sell or distribute an illegal substance, you have to be responsible for your product. I see nothing wrong with that.

You're really downplaying the effects an addiction can have on an individual. To think that Derek could have said no to taking an oxy just one day out of rehab is pretty ridiculous, it doesn't matter that he is an adult. Opioid addictions take years to recover from. Yes, no one made Derek take the pill, but he had a dependency on the drug and couldn't be considered a "rational thinker". I think the whole "it's your fault" thing is a little different when you're overtaken by addiction. Sorry. I would agree with the wallet thing for anyone who wasn't an addict.

The sad thing was that his brother thought he was helping him by "rationing" the number of pills he gave him. The fact that he was giving him any at all continued to fuel his addiction.


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backthatSASSup wrote:
Who the fuck is saying he made Derek take it and what does that matter anyway? He got charged with two things: unlawfully distributing a controlled substance and tampering with the scene of a death. No where was anyone saying he made Derek take the pill. I do think it's incredibly irresponsible to give a supposed recovering addict the very thing he's dangerously addicted to, but there's no charges for anything even remotely related.

Aaron could have been charged with manslaughter or homicide if they had proved that the pill he gave him was the one that contributed to his death, but they have no way of knowing if Derek had taken more on his own accord. But had they been able to prove it, the law makes drug dealers accountable. If you sell or distribute an illegal substance, you have to be responsible for your product. I see nothing wrong with that.

You're really downplaying the effects an addiction can have on an individual. To think that Derek could have said no to taking an oxy just one day out of rehab is pretty ridiculous, it doesn't matter that he is an adult. Opioid addictions take years to recover from. Yes, no one made Derek take the pill, but he had a dependency on the drug and couldn't be considered a "rational thinker". I think the whole "it's your fault" thing is a little different when you're overtaken by addiction. Sorry. I would agree with the wallet thing for anyone who wasn't an addict.

The sad thing was that his brother thought he was helping him by "rationing" the number of pills he gave him. The fact that he was giving him any at all continued to fuel his addiction.

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