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Will they break the curse
Yes! Break that curse! 33%  33%  [ 9 ]
No! I hope they lose! 48%  48%  [ 13 ]
I don't really care now that the Sabres are out. 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
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Sabresfansince1980
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Oh...LOL. Well, I don't know about being stick figures, but I can't say that they have the most casual personalities out there. As long as they keep scoring like robots too...


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I get a sick pleasure every year when the last Canadian team is eliminated, so no, I don't want the Canucks to win it all ;)

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Come on though, Vancouver is a pretty cool city and the Canucks are all they have (well, besides the BC Lions). They deserve a little something after all the mediocrity. They're as close to a Canadian version of Buffalo as you can get, except for the prostitution.


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I've got nothing against Vancouver...Out of the west, I like them more than most teams.

It's the national angle I care about ;)

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Sharks/Lightning is my dream matchup, but I'm seeing Canucks/Lightning.

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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Come on though, Vancouver is a pretty cool city and the Canucks are all they have (well, besides the BC Lions). They deserve a little something after all the mediocrity. They're as close to a Canadian version of Buffalo as you can get, except for the prostitution.


you mean sports wise, right?

they too lost an NBA team. but who cares.

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Yes, mediocrity only as far as sports. Otherwise it's a kick ass city that I'd love to visit for a very extended time.


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Anyone but Boston.


Yeah, have to go with this one.

I have mixed feelings, I want them to lose out on a cup the same way they lost out on perreault. And it doesn't help that (to me) they've compiled a roster full of assholes to rival the ducks. I mean they already had Burrows, who is a cock, Kesler, who plays cheap, Luongo who is incredibly annoying, and the Sedins who personify the worst in Europeans going completely limp-dicked in the playoffs because they don't give a shit about winning the cup. (Which isn't a mark against all Euros, just something I think to be true in the case of the Sedins). But then they added Maxim Lapierre, a complete shitbag, and Raffi Torres who personified the worst in Canadians going limp-dicked in the playoffs last year.

So I'd have no problem seeing Vancouver choke this series away to San Jose, or get smeared in the cup finals against Tampa Bay, but I hate Boston so much they could square off against the Westboro Baptist church and I'd still probably root against them (not really).

My order of desire is:

San Jose - Great fanbase, and at 20 years old can no longer be considered a 'new' team in my eyes. Too bad Vancouver is head and shoulders more talented than them, and probably every other team in the NHL.

Tampa Bay - For Dwayne Roloson, and Dwayne Roloson only. Ten bucks says he'd spend his time with the cup removing 2006 from existence.

Vancouver - I will find someone on that roster I like damnit! Sami Salo...he's made of Tim Connollys, only he plays defense. That's legit, right?

Boston - The only team I wouldn't root for over Boston in the Cup Finals is Detroit. After watching a lot (not all) of Red Sox fans turn into complete shitbags and eclipsing Yankee fans in obnoxiousness after 2004, I don't think I want the city of Boston to ever win a sports championship ever again because they've proven they can't handle it. You'd think with the Celtics's 39083246097234907 championship banners they could act like they've been there before a little bit.

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Well what I think we deserve as NHL fans is a Boston/Vancouver series.

Think about the four remaining fan bases and locations. While San Jose probably has the best fan base in California, and Tampa has the best fan base in Florida, they don't compare to the Boston and Vancouver areas.

Tampa has shown this year that they are a great team, and that the Southeast division isn't as bad as it used to be, but I do not want a team from Florida winning another cup.

A Canucks/Bruins series would be fun, i'm going to hope it happens. Holy goaltender matchup batman.


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"...and the Sedins who personify the worst in Europeans going completely limp-dicked in the playoffs because they don't give a shit about winning the cup."

Where does this come from CV?? I get how Vancouver has come up short in past playoffs, but the same goes for the big strong Canadian players in San Jose. So far in these playoffs one has 19 pts and the other 15 pts...right on par with their season. What have the Sedins ever done or said to show they don't care about winning a Cup? I don't have any big crush on the guys but I sure am curious where this opinion comes from. If you just don't like them (like Kesler or Burrows, Lapierre, Torres) that's fine. I don't like them either but "limp-dicked" and not caring about a Cup is a little strong for just not liking a player.


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I find it interesting that not a bad word was said about the Sedins until the last couple weeks.

Kinda thought some of you were better than that. Guess I was incorrect.


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Like I said, I'm not saying that all European players care less about winning a cup or that all Canadian players care more about winning a cup. I'm saying I think it is true that there are some European players who don't have their heart set on winning a cup and I think the Sedins are two of those players. For ten years they've put together great regular seasons and then gone and underperformed in the playoffs, something that teammates Kesler, Burrows, and Edler (fellow Swede) haven't done. (As I said, not saying that thought it true for all euros, but that it's probably true for a few, and these are two of them. I made the same limp-dicked comment about the Canadian Raffi Torres, and I probably should have made the same comment about half the sharks forwards.)

The sedins have both gone 8/17 games in the playoffs without any points, almost half when they went 17/82 (Daniel) and 21/82 (Henrik) games without any points in the regular season. For the record Thornton has 5/17 games with no pts, and a less offensively talented Marleau also has 8/17 games with no points.

I'll admit that saying they don't have the heart is a major assumption and one that I may be way off base on (and also one that several folks here have made about our own team for various reasons both fair and unfair), but I watch Vancouver roll into the playoffs with a superbly talented team, at times far superior to everyone else in the NHL and then crap out because Kesler can't win a cup by himself and the Sedins just haven't been good enough. Maybe scraping through the end of the Chicago and the beginning of the Nashville series was the kick in the butt they needed.

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Markus wrote:
Well what I think we deserve as NHL fans is a Boston/Vancouver series.

Think about the four remaining fan bases and locations. While San Jose probably has the best fan base in California, and Tampa has the best fan base in Florida, they don't compare to the Boston and Vancouver areas.

Tampa has shown this year that they are a great team, and that the Southeast division isn't as bad as it used to be, but I do not want a team from Florida winning another cup.

A Canucks/Bruins series would be fun, i'm going to hope it happens. Holy goaltender matchup batman.


San Jose has had better ticket sales than Boston 16 of their 20 years of existence and Vancouver 11 of their 20 years of existence.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Like I said, I'm not saying that all European players care less about winning a cup or that all Canadian players care more about winning a cup. I'm saying I think it is true that there are some European players who don't have their heart set on winning a cup and I think the Sedins are two of those players. For ten years they've put together great regular seasons and then gone and underperformed in the playoffs, something that teammates Kesler, Burrows, and Edler (fellow Swede) haven't done. (As I said, not saying that thought it true for all euros, but that it's probably true for a few, and these are two of them. I made the same limp-dicked comment about the Canadian Raffi Torres, and I probably should have made the same comment about half the sharks forwards.)

The sedins have both gone 8/17 games in the playoffs without any points, almost half when they went 17/82 (Daniel) and 21/82 (Henrik) games without any points in the regular season. For the record Thornton has 5/17 games with no pts, and a less offensively talented Marleau also has 8/17 games with no points.

I'll admit that saying they don't have the heart is a major assumption and one that I may be way off base on (and also one that several folks here have made about our own team for various reasons both fair and unfair), but I watch Vancouver roll into the playoffs with a superbly talented team, at times far superior to everyone else in the NHL and then crap out because Kesler can't win a cup by himself and the Sedins just haven't been good enough. Maybe scraping through the end of the Chicago and the beginning of the Nashville series was the kick in the butt they needed.


Make fun of Thornton and Marleau too while you're at it. They, until this year, just like the Sedins, have been shit in the playoffs.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Like I said, I'm not saying that all European players care less about winning a cup or that all Canadian players care more about winning a cup. I'm saying I think it is true that there are some European players who don't have their heart set on winning a cup and I think the Sedins are two of those players. For ten years they've put together great regular seasons and then gone and underperformed in the playoffs, something that teammates Kesler, Burrows, and Edler (fellow Swede) haven't done. (As I said, not saying that thought it true for all euros, but that it's probably true for a few, and these are two of them. I made the same limp-dicked comment about the Canadian Raffi Torres, and I probably should have made the same comment about half the sharks forwards.)

The sedins have both gone 8/17 games in the playoffs without any points, almost half when they went 17/82 (Daniel) and 21/82 (Henrik) games without any points in the regular season. For the record Thornton has 5/17 games with no pts, and a less offensively talented Marleau also has 8/17 games with no points.

I'll admit that saying they don't have the heart is a major assumption and one that I may be way off base on (and also one that several folks here have made about our own team for various reasons both fair and unfair), but I watch Vancouver roll into the playoffs with a superbly talented team, at times far superior to everyone else in the NHL and then crap out because Kesler can't win a cup by himself and the Sedins just haven't been good enough. Maybe scraping through the end of the Chicago and the beginning of the Nashville series was the kick in the butt they needed.


Make fun of Thornton and Marleau too while you're at it. They, until this year, just like the Sedins, have been shit in the playoffs.


Yeah, that's my bad, I really should have picked on Thornton (who has been much worse than Marleau) for some of his playoff performances which are truly terrible. (But he still has a higher ppg than both Sedins in the playoffs.)

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Markus wrote:
Well what I think we deserve as NHL fans is a Boston/Vancouver series.

Think about the four remaining fan bases and locations. While San Jose probably has the best fan base in California, and Tampa has the best fan base in Florida, they don't compare to the Boston and Vancouver areas.

Tampa has shown this year that they are a great team, and that the Southeast division isn't as bad as it used to be, but I do not want a team from Florida winning another cup.

A Canucks/Bruins series would be fun, i'm going to hope it happens. Holy goaltender matchup batman.


San Jose has had better ticket sales than Boston 16 of their 20 years of existence and Vancouver 11 of their 20 years of existence.


boston also played in a tiny arena, and their current one is pretty small too.

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Vancouver hasn't had a supremely talented team until the last couple years, and last year they lost to the Cup champions (that was even more talented). Me thinks you're being a little harsh.


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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Markus wrote:
Well what I think we deserve as NHL fans is a Boston/Vancouver series.

Think about the four remaining fan bases and locations. While San Jose probably has the best fan base in California, and Tampa has the best fan base in Florida, they don't compare to the Boston and Vancouver areas.

Tampa has shown this year that they are a great team, and that the Southeast division isn't as bad as it used to be, but I do not want a team from Florida winning another cup.

A Canucks/Bruins series would be fun, i'm going to hope it happens. Holy goaltender matchup batman.


San Jose has had better ticket sales than Boston 16 of their 20 years of existence and Vancouver 11 of their 20 years of existence.


Does San Jose have the celtics, bruins, patriots and red sox?

If you compare the fanbase between San Jose and Boston, it's not even close

Plus, they play in California. Cities that have no ice should not win the cup.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Vancouver hasn't had a supremely talented team until the last couple years, and last year they lost to the Cup champions (that was even more talented). Me thinks you're being a little harsh.


Yeah, like I said, I'll accept that I don't know what's going on in their heads. Just talking with a few Vancouver fans, it's frustrating seeing seemingly everyone on that team step up except the Sedins.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Markus wrote:
Well what I think we deserve as NHL fans is a Boston/Vancouver series.

Think about the four remaining fan bases and locations. While San Jose probably has the best fan base in California, and Tampa has the best fan base in Florida, they don't compare to the Boston and Vancouver areas.

Tampa has shown this year that they are a great team, and that the Southeast division isn't as bad as it used to be, but I do not want a team from Florida winning another cup.

A Canucks/Bruins series would be fun, i'm going to hope it happens. Holy goaltender matchup batman.


San Jose has had better ticket sales than Boston 16 of their 20 years of existence and Vancouver 11 of their 20 years of existence.


boston also played in a tiny arena, and their current one is pretty small too.


I always go by percentage of seats filled, not by straight numbers.

I do understand that there is more going on in Boston than San Jose, and that Boston has better TV ratings (although San Jose is fairly close behind), but to me there isn't a wide gap between the fanbases. San Jose isn't just a good market for a southern team, it's a good market period.

Disqualifying over half the country because they don't see snowfall is stupid, short-sighted, and bad for hockey. (And for the record San Jose has seen snow remain on the ground.) I've probably one of the more critical people regarding southern teams here because having two teams in Florida and two teams in Southern California is beyond asinine. In my opinion the NHL was stupid with its expansion...but there are places in the south in which hockey can work and work well, and it suits the NHL to strengthen its ties in those areas. Tampa Bay, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis, and San Jose have all seen strong ticket sales. I believe San Jose, Los Angeles, and St. Louis had more sellouts than Buffalo this season.

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