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Sabresfansince1980
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:36 pm 
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This type of statement can be taken that you not only don't care if these people die but in fact think they deserved it. Like B&Y said, it makes you sound like a big asshole. I agree with you in all respects about drinking and driving and i think most people here do as well. Everything except that quote.


Well someone COULD take it that way, if they already think poorly of that person or just want to assume the worst. Again, I'm hardly judging anyone, I just don't (and really can't) get worked up over them. It takes a different type of person to make it long in law enforcement. Not bigger, badder, meaner, or whatever you might wrongly assume from that comment. Mentally tougher maybe...something like that.

People die all over the place every day in all kinds of horrible ways. Do you or anyone else you know get choked up from reading about it in the morning news? I doubt it, not if it's someone you never knew in a town you've never been in. So should I get all choked up about it because I'm the one who has to be there and working the scene or investigating the crime that day? The person is dead no matter what, same as if it happened in Oakland and I never even read or knew about it. It doesn't mean I'm some fucking zombie, but that I am able to separate my emotions enough to keep sane and make it to retirement. I'm not unlike most of the officers I've worked with for over decade, and they aren't assholes either. They can turn off emotions just enough to make it close to 30 years also.

You and squanto jumping on me like that shows a real lack of understanding, no patience for a conversation, and maybe even a little high-and-mighty moral authority. Just ask if something I type doesn't sit well. This routine of getting demonized (you called me racist or something in another thread recently) is really getting old. I can't remember jumping on you guys with any personal comments at all just for something you posted. I've only gotten pissed after you've taken issue with me. We can disagree to high hell all day every day, but I won't ever make judgements about you personally. I'd like to get the same consideration.


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Squanto
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I'm not even going to bother responding aside from letting you know that I'm going to take advantage of the ignore feature on the site .

I've reached a point that I just don't care to read anything you have to say anymore on pretty much any topic, and I'll leave it at that.


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ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:51 pm 
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back to dunn...

http://www.dickhouse.tv/dickhouse/2011/ ... -love.html

clearly knoxville is struggling with this as well. real sad.

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Sabresfansince1980
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Well damn if you can't handle trying to have a calm discussion without stupid name calling I suppose that's the best option. Less aggravation for me too...'preciate it.


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Displaced Fan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:55 am 
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um...who called you a racist? I simply said in the "Yeah for gay rights" thread that you were off topic. I think my post was something along the lines of "How did we go from celebrating to talking about how people should be able to marry their cousins?" . I don't even disagree with you on that post.....I just thought it was off topic.

Anyway, your comment:
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I'll tell you, it never bothered me having to step around the dead person that was DWI, or reach around their bloody wreckage, especially when they were the only fatality.


It literally says that it NEVER BOTHERED you...not that you didn't get choked up or that you didn't keep a hanky at hand, but that you NEVER were bothered. I don't honestly fucking care anymore. If I took it the wrong way fine, sorry. Since when I said you were off topic (after getting several pm's from different people bitching about it) and had you and Cross jump on me I say there isn't much love lost. If you think that I'm a stranger to people in your line of work or to people involved in DWI's and am simply misunderstanding you then think again. I have worked in substance abuse and mental health and have a good background in dealing with alcoholics, their families and the families of DWI victims (a lot of that work was done in ERs). On the personal side I have spent the last 12-13 years surrounded by no one but military guys who have seen shit tons of time in the sand. All my buds have seen plenty of shit that most people would puke at but would never be caught saying some tough guy shit like "Meh, fuck 'em". (well if the person had taken a shot at them....then yes they say that quite a bit). My point is simply.....you know what? fuck it. I'm out.
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My heart goes out to the family. That being said, hard to sob too much when the guy was shit faced at the wheel.
Not some liberal shit but close to what you were saying minus the "he desrved it" sentiment.

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ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:09 am 
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i still actually wanna talk about dunns passing. anyone else?

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i still actually wanna talk about dunns passing. anyone else?

You're right. Sorry.

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ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:04 am 
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i still actually wanna talk about dunns passing. anyone else?

You're right. Sorry.


its fine man. i just find this whole argument kinda silly. i agree with you and tom, but i dunno.

im probably being over sensitive.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:29 pm 
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
back to dunn...

http://www.dickhouse.tv/dickhouse/2011/ ... -love.html

clearly knoxville is struggling with this as well. real sad.

Really sad. Even if you're a person who has no sympathy for a person who makes stupid and deadly decision to drink and drive, at least have some sympathy for the friends and family they all left behind.

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Sabresfansince1980
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:44 pm 
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DF, it had nothing to do with the gay rights thread. You called me racist in some other thread that I don't care to look up, but it wasn't even a race related topic. It pissed me of quite a bit and I said so.

I might post a whole bunch of opinion, fact, or anything in between that you disagree with to the hilt. As much as you or others don't like what I post, I've put up with a ton of personal comments. Bottom line is you should be able to have a conversation that inquires further into something you don't like, without assuming the worst version and jumping to conclusions about me personally and posting them. I don't make personal assumptions about anybody here. If I disagree I'll debate it, but it's just a debate. Let's try to leave these discussions at that.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:57 pm 
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RIP RYAN DUNN

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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
DF, it had nothing to do with the gay rights thread. You called me racist in some other thread that I don't care to look up, but it wasn't even a race related topic. It pissed me of quite a bit and I said so.

I might post a whole bunch of opinion, fact, or anything in between that you disagree with to the hilt. As much as you or others don't like what I post, I've put up with a ton of personal comments. Bottom line is you should be able to have a conversation that inquires further into something you don't like, without assuming the worst version and jumping to conclusions about me personally and posting them. I don't make personal assumptions about anybody here. If I disagree I'll debate it, but it's just a debate. Let's try to leave these discussions at that.

Seriously? Since I can't pm you I'll just ignore you. We're trying to get back on track. If you have an issue with me take it up with a mod. Also...I seriously hope with that racist bit you aren't talking about when I voiced that I felt a lot of Obama's critics were racially motivated and you thought wrongly that I was talking about you. It's simply amazing how many people here are rubbed the wrong way by you but you maintain that it's all our fault. Have a good life.

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Sabresfansince1980
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:08 pm 
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I don't even know what Obama thread you're talking about, but I looked it up and it's the first page of the "demise" thread. You jump off the cliff with a wild tirade about me with your first post, and then follow it up with a 1950s pic of a boy with a racist sign. Real nice...and all because you can't simply have the patience to converse or debate. It's like you have this huge chip about me and it clouds every response to me. An online forum is a flawed platform for detailed issues. Unless everyone wants to type for 20 mins at a time, some thoughts or certain angles and details are going to be missed. That stuff can get hashed out in follow-up posts, but it goes nowhere when the first response is a grenade.

And yes, I'm serious. Others may not like what I post either, but you and squanto are the only ones that get so nasty/heated/personal with me. I get short with others too, but I haven't had anywhere near the level of conflict with anyone else here since ETC two or so years back. Like squanto, if ignoring me is what works for you then fine, less aggravation for both of us.


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Crosscheck
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Let's just stop this.
No point of view is being forwarded and it's way off topic.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:59 pm 
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WOW!

sadly... kinda makes sense. :(

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backthatSASSup
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:10 am 
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Strange music in that video.


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ironyisadeadscene
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:17 am 
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what one? him skulling the tequila?

its classy music. for a classy action.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:06 am 
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Crosscheck wrote:
Let's just stop this.
No point of view is being forwarded and it's way off topic.

I would pm the guy but I can't.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:


WOW!

sadly... kinda makes sense. :(

Lolz?

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