no, just a child rapist.

/toomuchhalloweenwikipedia

Are you kidding? He embodies their platform. Invade people's dreams and kill them in their sleep. (Oh, but protect the unborn babies) <----Emoticon, see I'm not serious

Here's why Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan sucks. Be prepared to scroll, but remember that this is still to scale.

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CNN/TIME Poll: Romney Leads Republican Rivals in First Four Primary States
http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/26/ti ... ernational

Romney leads in all four states among all demographic groups, including one that caught my eye: "moderate or liberal” Republicans.

What exactly are "liberal Republicans?" I know there used to be sightings of the species in the '60s, especially in the northeast, but where exactly are they today and what constitutes "liberal" in the Grand Old Party?

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Technically, isn't that racist by saying people voted for him to prove they're not racist?

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I'd like you to explain the "technical" logic used to qualify this as "technically racist"

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The definition of a NeoCon is a "Liberal mugged by reality".
These would be a lot of your libertarians...people who are socially more liberal but fiscally conservative.

...and don't forget the "Reagan Democrats"....Some Democrats who are aligned with a more hawkish foreign policy.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

Ron Paul, or this country fails yet again at electing a president that's willing to actually address our real issues.

We need a balanced budget, we need the promote peace and bring our troops home, we need to reallocate the money we spend on militarism to self defense (seriously... this cyber warfare is the next big thing, and we're lagging far behind in that) and we need a guy that can't be bought by the corporate fat cats.

Oh and most importantly, we need a politician that will respect our constitution.

Fuck Obama. I can't believe I voted for that scum bag. What an idiot I was.

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...which is why I have a hard time believing a CNN poll saying that Romney is the favorite among young people in those states.

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I first saw this a couple weeks ago. Ever since I've been sooooorely tempted to send it to the few Herman Cain supporters I know. It's ridiculous.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

You should. He's spoon feeding people sugar coated bullshit, and they think it tastes delicious. It does - until you chew.

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We were having a discussion in class the other day about these new tax proposals and how they are just gimmicky, including Perry's flat tax. Not that I'm saying our current tax system doesn't need to be revamped, but a flat tax or 9-9-9 is not the answer. Unfortunately, many people are tax ignorant and don't know what they're hearing.

Everyone thinks a flat tax sounds nice and easy, until one realizes that ONLY ordinary income will be taxed, meaning that wealthy hedge fund managers (these people make millions per year) will pay ZERO tax. People like Warren Buffet will pay little to no taxes because a majority of their income is from capital gains. Also, how do you decide which deductions are fair and which aren't? Pretty sure a corporation wouldn't be happy with paying taxes on their revenues without any deductions for cost of goods sold, wages paid, etc. Things start to get complicated again.

PSP i'm curious what exactly you hate about him so much that you'd refer to him as a scum bag?

I'm almost sure the 9-9-9 is 9% capital gains tax too.

we also need to remember who REALLY pays taxes. A lot of people/families get a lot back in April. single young adults get the least back, as far as a percentage return. we don't have kids, we claim 0 or 1, don't qualify for EIC, student loans don't get to be written off, and unless you're still in college, we don't really qualify for anything. so the government gets to take 15-20% of my income. then family a with two kids and enough salary between the parents to be doing okay get everything back and maybe some more, so basically the feds just took a 0% interest loan out and counted it as income.

9-9-9 Plan: Summary

Removes all payroll taxes and unites all tax payers
Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest opportunities to do so
Lifts a $430 billion dead-weight burden on the economy due to compliance, enforcement, collection, etc…
Is fair, simple, efficient, neutral, and transparent
Ends nearly all deductions and special interest favors
Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits
Exports leave our shores without the Business Tax or the Sales Tax embedded in their cost, making them world class competitive. Imports are subject to the same taxation as domestically produced goods, leveling the playing field.
Lowest marginal rates on production
Kills the Death Tax
Allows immediate expensing of business investments
Eliminates double taxation of dividends
Increases capital formation which aids capital availability for small businesses
Increased capital per worker drives productivity and wage growth
Features a platform to launch properly structured Empowerment Zones to renew our inner cities
The pro-growth, pro-job, pro-export economic policies of the 9-9-9 PLAN equals a strong dollar policy

Source: http://www.hermancain.com/999plan

word. i wasn't really contesting, i just thought i remembered him yelling "9% income tax, 9% capital gains tax, 9% somethingsomething tax"

No, I didn't think you were! I just wanted to show that aspect of it because I think it's pretty important.

How much (if at all) are capital gains currently taxed? I ask because I honestly am not sure, and I have of course seen the quote from Warren Buffet that his secretary pays more in taxes than he does (I think he said it in the context of illustrating what is wrong with the way taxes currently are). Predominantly I'm asking because of the Warren Buffet quote.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

The capital gains tax is 15%. IMO there's nothing to complain about with that, because that money has already been taxed as income, and is now being used for investment. Any capital gains tax is a double tax - taxing money that has been taxed once already.

If a person or business can be successful enough through the years of normal income tax, and then use the profit to make much more through investment at a lower tax rate...I really don't see the problem. Didn't the Beatles make a song about this that would really seem to be against any capital gains tax at all?

Lied to get into office. I voted for him on the basis that he'd pull our troops home immediately. I also voted for him because he stated he'd make government more transparent, which he hasn't done. In fact, he's done the opposite.



I also don't want a President that shits on the most holy document in American history by going to war with countries without a declaration and permission from congress. It wasn't his call to get us involved in Libya, but he made it anyways.

Those are dangerous precedents that we can't allow to be set. Once you sacrifice one aspect, the rest begin to follow.

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