I'm pretty down on Obama for his failures on the domestic front, but I give him full marks for taking a huge gamble and ordering a risky raid that could have easily blown up in his face and crippled his presidency, ala Jimmy Carter.

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th' only knower of th' cosmic mysteries alive at this time

Obama isn't the only president that OK'd Osama missions - it just happens that this one worked. No president deserves credit for the capture of anyone on the most wanted list, IMO. That's just political posturing and propaganda.

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He sure would have been slammed hard if it had failed. Jimmy Carter lost a presidency over just such a failed mission. You can argue all you want that Carter shouldn't have been held responsible for a sand storm in the deserts of Iran, but, as Truman said, the buck stops in the Oval Office.

Steve Jobs didn't invent the iPod, either, but he is the executive who made the final decision and therefore gets the blame if it fails, as well as the credit for that decision when it goes right.

No different for the Chief Executive.

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th' only knower of th' cosmic mysteries alive at this time

That SHOULD be obvious, right? But its also as painfully obvious that if a republican president were in office we'd have heard about a zillion times now how he personally killed the worlds most feared terrorist with his bare hands. This is clearly killing republicans, that a democratic president was in office when we got our biggest boogeyman, and that is pretty awesome.

I voted for Obama mainly for that reason. But he duped me. I will definitely be giving my vote to someone else.

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Wheelhouse

The Iranian hostage crisis was a source of national shame.
Osama living an squaller for 10 years was not

The Iranian hostage crisis had American citizens exposed to imminent danger.
Osama did not.

The situations cannot be compared.

Good for Obama for giving the order, but to suggest a failure would have been bad for him is ridiculous.
A failure would have simply been unreported to the public because, you know, it's special ops.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

Is it bad that I'm actually interested in voting in this election and forevermore (when it comes to local elections, that will happen once I establish residency somewhere, and if the polling happens to be while I am not at work ), but I don't see a single candidate I would give my vote to? And in New York, where I'll be living at least through this election, those unregistered as either Republican or Democrat can't vote in primaries, which is the real election in my mind, and I can't in good conscience register as either. (At least, that was the case last election, which is why I didn't vote.

ETA:
I suppose in the general election I could vote for a third-party candidate, though I've already decided on doing that. All the Republican candidates are terrible, and there is no possibility that I am voting for Obama. If only the young in this nation actually voted...

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Miles to go before I sleep

‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

ATL - I am typically in the same situation (whether to register as R or D), but I'm registering as R just so I can vote for Ron Paul.

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That would work... I wouldn't vote for him in the generals, but I do consider Ron Paul to be the least worrisome Republican candidate. The rest are essentially backed by the Tea Party. No, no, no.

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Miles to go before I sleep

‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

To me, it's his consistency, but this isn't the place to discuss republicans, I guess

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ron paul isnt electable. the GOP will never run him out there. no way in hell. and people will write him in to voice their disgust with the current system, but in the end, its all bells and whistles anyways.

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I will most likely be voting for Obama again. He might not be the most LGBT-friendly president, but he's sure as hell better than whoever the republicans march out.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

bingo. its no question for me, hes got my vote

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Fucking. Wrong.

100%.

Ron Paul is against gay marriage, but he's also against the federal government having ANYTHING to do with it. He wants to let the states choose.

Vote for Obama, and expect more of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2eg7uqLu2SY[/youtube]

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You do make a good point in that neither is good enough. And in all likelihood my vote will be irrelevant in blue NY anyways.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

I don't know if you care, but the image of obama CHANGEd here in europe
-he was promoted like a popstar and I think many of his european fans (the rest of it) don't care about politics in general -

the foreign policy is the same like under BushII ----> hope is gone

the fact that the UK and USA prevent reforms in the financial sector is not good either .......

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HOCKEY IS BACK!

whats odd i obama has a high approval rating in his foreign policy. its in the upper 60s. his domestic approval rating is in the high 40s. not good enough. but good enough for me i suppose.

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I'm voting for Kodos.

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I think people are happy about Obama killing Osama bin Laden, and that boosted his scores there.

I also think people are more supportive over Paul's foreign policy because they realize our foreign policy directly affects our domestic issues, which Obama has been miserable on.

We can't fix our domestic issues at home without ending militarism.

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Wheelhouse

oh wells.

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