I went through it 7x in 6 years in the Marine Corps

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How about, "Don't impede our sidewalks for other students or you will not be welcome to return next semester?"

That would have taken care of it.

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Wheelhouse

fuck that man! Go Air Force!!! Hahahaha!!

The new Air Force tag line should be "Air Force: Easier on the eyes!

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THERE'S ALREADY A FUCKING CAMPUS RULE TO NOT BLOCK WALKWAYS!!!!!

Do you really think that would change anything?

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dont impede our sidewalks for other students, or you are expelled? is this rule just for protests? or if i drop my folder, and someone has to step on the grass, am i expelled for that too?

arrest the kids for breaking a city ordinance, fine them 100 bucks, forget about it. next time, protest on the grass, dont break any written city ordinance, and then there will be no question about police brutality if it happens.

game. set. match.

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I agree Adam, I dont think that would have done anything.

But there is still no way that anyone is justified spraying people whos only crime is sitting on a sidewalk. There has to be another way.

And for those of you who disagree...dont you wonder why the cops are suspended, why people were fired over this? It is because the country disagrees with you. Because generally, people dont see that as an appropriate reaction. Even if you can point to A= B = C (A = people disobeying the rules, B = People asked to move, C = People sprayed for disobeying the rules) and make some sort of linear argument that way...people still dont agree that A should lead to C. And I dont understand for a fucking second how someone who is supposedly a libertarian could see this as acceptable behavior from a "Peace officer" whos job it is to protect and serve the populace.

why do so many people discuss about the way of the protest instead of the message of it?

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HOCKEY IS BACK!

1) Who's Adam?

2) Are you saying I'm a libertarian?

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1) PSP = Adam

2) I figured someone who only votes for Ron Paul would consider themselves a libertarian. Sorry if that's not the case...but how else would you categorize yourself?

NYI, exactly. They were given ample time and warning that they were breaking the law. Yes campus rules can be interpreted as city ordinances, especially at state run schools.

Here is the UC Davis school news reporting on what happened. Funny thing is, there is a lot more info on this report than any other media outlet around.



It shows a letter by the Chancellor explaining her safety and health concerns and gives them a day and time to have everything removed. Then it shows how the police initially responded. After the students realized that the police were getting the upper hand by arresting students more kept arriving, eventually surrounding the officers that were there. That is an officer safety issue. They even have a shot of the officer reading a pre-determined statement that declares it an illegal assembly. The Chancellor has an obligation to maintain order and safety.

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haha, plus...TECHNICALLY, I titled this 'question for libertarians'....so just by the fact that you've chosen to engage in the discussion means you're a libertarian.

I don't really consider myself a libertarian, simply because I absolutely hate labels in the political front. Perhaps a constitutionalist?

I don't like your example, because A!=B!=C; there is a flow to the level of response, and it's something that I just don't have a problem with.

The campus had rules, and the students broke them. When they decided to bind themselves together, they upped the ante on the level of response required. As SiDC said, the cop was too close. His nonchalance was in poor taste. But the students broke the law. This nation has provisions to allow you to voice your opinion without breaking the law.

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you can't call a peaceful assembly illegal.

If that's the case, then every member of this forum can come into your house and sit down and call it a peaceful assembly, and by your logic, it's not illegal.

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Not everyone will agree with what law enforcement does. That is part of the job. Would you rather the officers hit the students with batons????? How about let these people completely ignore a lawful order to leave? Hmmm, that logical thinking right there.

The officers did exactly what they were trained to do with the least force necessary. They are being used as scapegoats by the administration so they don't get shit canned themselves. It's call spin control.....

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Oh yes it can. Just because they're not rioting doesn't make it legal. How about these "peaceful protester" doing the same thing in a street. Still legal????

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yeah, private and public property are the same thing. i forgot how i inferred that that one time

Ok. Then we can all go stand on your sidewalk (the one that runs across your driveway), and choose not to move. What happens then?

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Impeding traffic is different than sitting in a walk way. One poses a huge threat to public safety. The other does not.

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i drive through my lawn.

i don't think this fallacy laden arguments from you are ending up in anything but frustration. it's pretty easy to walk around a dozen people.