If anyone is looking for an android option, without being beholden to spring/verizon/at&t for massive monthly payments and 2 year contracts, i've been using Virgin Mobiles Motorola Triumph for a couple months now, and am pretty happy.

Before I had the EVO, on sprint, and because it was 4G capable had to pay an extra 10/month. Combine that with the insurance I had on the phone and I was paying about 100 bucks a month for 300 minutes/unlimited everything else.

Now I get 300 minutes/unlimited everything else, with a phone that basically does the same thing the EVO did, for only 35 bucks a month and no contract. Same coverage, same everything...except the bill. Giggety, contacts are for suckas!

I'll probably be doing this tonight.

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that's how i did it, with mine.

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

4Gis so new so I could see why they never bothered implementing it on the 4S.

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just call me Brad

Twitter @BUrbanowicz13

Right on. Early adopters aren't always the best. The rush to say you have something first is pretty pointless if you don't consider the negatives of being first, such as poor battery life, large form factor, limited exposure, and the fact that in real world tests, AT&T's 3G speeds rival those of Verizon's LTE network. The iPhone wouldn't be the most popular handset in America if it sucked.

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Wheelhouse

sure it would. idiot apple cultists will buy anything that apple rolls out.

by the way, verizons LTE blows ATTs LTE out of the water. so no, ATTs 3G doesnt compare to verizons LTE network.

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Yeah, in your area LTE does. Not in mine, where ATT 3G download speeds are consistently 3.5-4 MB/S and LTE is 5-6 MB/S comparably. No network is universally dominant nation wide.

Humors me that people seem to ignore stuff like that and blame Apple's success on a cult-like society. I'd like to see their explanation for all the Android defectors jumping to the iPhone when it was released on Verizon, or the fact that the Verizon iPhone release took very little of AT&T's subscribers at all.

I can answer those questions for them: Because the iPhone is fucking sick, and AT&T isn't terrible.

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Wheelhouse

its very simple. apple is ingrained in peoples head as "the best" and owning apple products is a status symbol. what easier way to flash a status symbol then a cell phone that never leaves your side? sure the iphone is a good cell phone. but its been surpassed and left in the dust.

as for ATT. ive never used ATT. all i know is people complain left and right about dropping calls and poor coverage. verizon doesnt have these problems nearly as much. that being said, verizon does have a problem with texts not being sent. its annoying when it happens. but it doesnt happen to me enough to worry about it.

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new iphone might also have a 4 inch screen.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/28/hitachi-s ... -displays/

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He fails to realize 4G isn't everywhere and not even running fully. Ask the guys who work on the cell towers, in most place, 4G is a year away at the very least.

Go ahead and question those Cell phone tower guys putting up them towers.

4G is pointless to have in practically most of America unless you're in LA pretty much. Or live in the largest of cities in certain states. I live 30 miles from Raleigh and guess what, 4G isn't even in my backyard, only in the city it is.

Another thing, ATT doesn't have a LTE network yet it is a HSPA+ network which is currently as fast or faster than Verizon's LTE network.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/25/technol ... /index.htm

ATT sucks huh? Tests don't lie, it's faster than Verizon.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393182,00.asp

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ATT is last in customer satisfaction as well. but oh my god they won a speed test!

and 4G isnt a year away in most places. but again, youve never been one to use facts. you just kinda make the shit up as you go along.

and yes, 4G for verizon covers half the population. but its not relevant? sounds like a butthurt apple fanboi trying to reason why apple cant keep up with the new best phones.

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lol half the population doesn't mean you're covered everywhere you go. It means that major cities have 4G. 99% of the time, I'm nowhere near a major city.

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Wheelhouse

no, but if half the population lives within these 4G coverage areas (meaning theyll be in 4G coverage the majority of their time) then it makes sense to have a 4G phone, right?

you may not be covered. aaron may not be covered. but theres half a population who is.

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And yet it hasn't slowed down the iPhone 4s or the iPhone 4. Because it's actually a better handset in a lot of other areas that people care about. GUI, touch screen functionality, reliability...

Only hipsters blame it on fanboism. "Fanbois man. They know nothing about phones. I have an android, and it has 4G, so it's sooo much better."

Give me a break. Tons of people have switched from android to iOS, and some have gone the other way. There are positives and negatives to each phone, and nothing that the Android offers that iOS doesn't interests me. That's why I have an iPhone.

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Wheelhouse

My 4G Droid has gotten over 30Mbps down in Los Angeles (A place I pretty sure I'm sharing the network with a boatload of other people.)

AT&T 4G gets a better result on their speed tests because damn near no one is using it.

What's your iPhone top speed? I think that's AT&T's relevant benchmark.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

you do realize that people have switched from iphones to androids too, right? the biggest complaint about the iphones is A. it requires itunes to use and if you use someone elses computer.. boom. phones dead. and B. androids super personal customization and the works. with the iphone, what you get is what you get. i like all the customization.

id bet you my lifes savings that if the iphone didnt have an apple logo on it... say it was.. a sony ericsson. its sales would be a fraction of what they are. there are apple fanbois on my very facebook page who were talking about how they HAD to get the iphone 4s because steve jobs fucking died, and that would be a tribute. seriously? you are spending money to upgrade a phone you got 5 months ago, because some guy whose never even heard of you fucking died? sorry dude, that is fanboisim. and you can not deny many many people rushed out and got their iphone 4s for that reason. maybe not the majority. but alot more then you probably realize.

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My dad has personally been on a job site where they are putting up Verizon 4G LTE cell towers and the workers on those CELL TOWERS said it from their mouths, tell me again I'm wrong when YOU have no idea at all.

I also fail to see how Apple isn't keeping up with other phones. Just because it works better than every Droid I've seen means it's not keeping up. My friend has a Droid X^2, he wishes he had the iPhone still over it.

There is a reason the iPhone has sold the most units these last few quarters.

you know with iTunes you can set it so you don't automatically sync with everything you plug into it. MY iPhone only syncs when I tell it to, not when I plug it in. You can do that with technology now.

And Cross, I just did a speedtest and I got 127ms of ping, 4.13 Mbps Down and 3.53 Mbps up in my house.

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you want me to do the math? ok.

larger screens
better screens (on the new androids, resolution wise)
4G
customization
different UI
better OS (if you have ice cream sandwich)
larger and more powerful processors

let me know when to stop.

and there is a reason the iphone sold the most units. weve covered it several times. follow along.

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Let me speak to this because this is the main reason I haven't and will not get an iPhone.
It's not about the syncing, it's the fact that Apple imposes a gatekeeper in the form of iTunes and the iTunes store.
Here they can and do censor and control what you can and cannot do with your phone.
This is unacceptable for me.

Yes, jailbreaking can be done...but why buy a product you have to void the warranty on just to use in the way you see fit?

I'll never play that game...and I generally like Apple products, I'm not a hater.

iPhone = great for people who like a known value, know it will only work one way but will work that way well.
Droid = great for people who prefer the ability to customize, have an option of hardware features and a choice in sources of applications.

Apples and Oranges.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

^what he said.

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