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ironyisadeadscene
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bear with me, i dont have a link ATM. its in todays flint journal. they were saying the NHL is in serious discussions to hold a winter classic at comerica park in downtown detroit. however, there is a possibility of the game being held here:

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o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?

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Detroit would be a great choice and I agree with you Woz, throw something different in the mix.

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The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.

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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.




maybe im wrong here, but didnt buffalo get it because it was their idea to even do it?
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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.




maybe im wrong here, but didnt buffalo get it because it was their idea to even do it?

Actually, I think NBC came up with the idea.

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Mr. Natural wrote:
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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.




maybe im wrong here, but didnt buffalo get it because it was their idea to even do it?

Actually, I think NBC came up with the idea.


hm, i had thought LQ had pitched it to the league.
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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.

Nashville vs Winnipeg would suck i agree with you but there are other marquee teams besides those located in the Northeast US that could be apart of it and draw people. Montreal @ Colorado (with Colorado wearing Quebec jerseys) would be huge, Dallas @ Minnesota (with Dallas in North Stars attire) would be fun.

even if there isnt a "dream match up" for the classic, teams like Tampa, Nashville, LA, Vancouver and Edmonton (in a couple years when the teams average age is over 21) have enough stars/rising stars on their team that they would be a great showcase for the talent of the NHL.

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i think they wanna use michigan stadium so it shatters the NHL record held by buffalo.

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o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?


How abou this just stop doing this gimmick?? It is so over done.

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o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?


How abou this just stop doing this gimmick?? It is so over done.


do it every 4 seasons like the Olympics and teams who put up the most wins (1 from each conference) during that span faceoff against eachother????

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o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?


How abou this just stop doing this gimmick?? It is so over done.


do it every 4 seasons like the Olympics and teams who put up the most wins (1 from each conference) during that span faceoff against eachother????


I think only doing it once should have been enough. It was actually fun to see I the first time, now it is just a gimmick for the NHL to make money.

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patkane88 wrote:
Jammerz04 wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?


How abou this just stop doing this gimmick?? It is so over done.


do it every 4 seasons like the Olympics and teams who put up the most wins (1 from each conference) during that span faceoff against eachother????


I think only doing it once should have been enough. It was actually fun to see I the first time, now it is just a gimmick for the NHL to make money.


God forbid they do that... :roll:
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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.

Maybe you missed the whole Winnipeg move, but I think you picked the wrong example there. Not only would Winnipeg's rabid fans watch the game but most of Canada would too. Nashville and Columbus is a better example.

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jordano wrote:
Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.

Maybe you missed the whole Winnipeg move, but I think you picked the wrong example there. Not only would Winnipeg's rabid fans watch the game but most of Canada would too. Nashville and Columbus is a better example.

Of course Winnipeg fans would watch and maybe many other Canadians would as well. However, since Canada's entire population is less than that of the state of California those kind of numbers aren't going to impress anyone at NBC.

I'll stick with my example.

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backthatSASSup wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
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patkane88 wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
o for fucks sake. can we get new teams up in this bitch already?


How abou this just stop doing this gimmick?? It is so over done.


do it every 4 seasons like the Olympics and teams who put up the most wins (1 from each conference) during that span faceoff against eachother????


I think only doing it once should have been enough. It was actually fun to see I the first time, now it is just a gimmick for the NHL to make money.


God forbid they do that... :roll:

They found something that makes money, how could they not want to continue making money.

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patkane88 wrote:
...it is just a gimmick for the NHL to make money.

Um, the entire league is a "gimmick" to make money. Why do you think professional sports exist?

If it is amateur hockey you want there are plenty of outlets. Personally, I am happy the NHL has a popular game and I look forward to watching the Winter Classic every year. It certainly beats watching college football's bowl series (which is nothing more than a professional sport where the players don't get paid).

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Mr. Natural wrote:
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...it is just a gimmick for the NHL to make money.

Um, the entire league is a "gimmick" to make money. Why do you think professional sports exist?

If it is amateur hockey you want there are plenty of outlets. Personally, I am happy that the NHL has a popular game and I look forward to watching the Winter Classic every year. It certainly beats watching college football's bowl series.


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Mr. Natural wrote:
The Winter Classic isn't a T-ball game where the league is trying to get everyone into the game. It is an NHL promotional event second only to the Stanley Cup, with a focus on expanding the viewership for the league.

Nobody is going to tune in to watch Nashville play Winnipeg (no offense to either of those cities or franchises).

This is a straight up business decision, so expect to see the Winter Classic limited to big city, big name, marquee teams for the foreseeable future. Buffalo only ranked because of its exceptional television ratings.

Maybe you missed the whole Winnipeg move, but I think you picked the wrong example there. Not only would Winnipeg's rabid fans watch the game but most of Canada would too. Nashville and Columbus is a better example.

Of course Winnipeg fans would watch and maybe many other Canadians would as well. However, since Canada's entire population is less than that of the state of California those kind of numbers aren't going to impress anyone at NBC.

I'll stick with my example.

Lets not kid ourselves. The amount of hockey fans that cheer for Winnipeg probably doubles all hockey fans in Californi :P I'll stick with my objection.

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Lets not kid ourselves. The amount of hockey fans that cheer for Winnipeg probably doubles all hockey fans in California :P

Well, you are probably right about that. And therein lies the problem for the NHL.

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