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 Post subject: Re: cell phone thread
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:48 pm 
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actually, apple already tackled that one. the said they didnt want to radically redesign the phone to put in the chip. which is stupid.

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Their market analysis must have concluded that lack of 4G wasn't going to be a huge issue with their ability to sell the 4s.

So far, they've been right. lol

No, their market analysis determined there are enough people like you that will buy the next one with 4G whether they need a new iPhone or not and they'll wait in line for the privilege to boot.
You're fueling mediocrity and planned obsolescence ;)

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And how are you getting a hotspot for free? Because Verizon and AT&T charges you when they find out about unauthorized tethering. Because I tried to get it free on my phone.


Hotspot and tethering are two different things. Tethering is using your phone, usually over USB or bluetooth as a modem.

Of course, I can do both and it's true Verizon charges more for tethering but the hostspot feature is covered under my unlimited data plan...and the feature is built into my phone.
/at least I think...I don't actually pay my Verizon bill, my company does.


anyhoo...here's what I thought was a decent read about the latest offerings from Apple and Google. Flame on!

http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/04/galaxy ... iphone-4s/

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 Post subject: Re: cell phone thread
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:07 am 
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Crosscheck wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Their market analysis must have concluded that lack of 4G wasn't going to be a huge issue with their ability to sell the 4s.

So far, they've been right. lol

No, their market analysis determined there are enough people like you that will buy the next one with 4G whether they need a new iPhone or not and they'll wait in line for the privilege to boot.
You're fueling mediocrity and planned obsolescence ;)


WRONG! I didn't buy the 4s, and I have no plans to. ;)

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WRONG! I didn't buy the 4s, and I have no plans to. ;)


Not wrong, I said "people like you"...not you specifically.
Apple sold 4 million 4s's in the first weekend alone...I'm guessing somewhere north of 85% of those were upgrades from a previous iPhone.

you know...the faithful...the true believers...people like you ;)

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Well since I am on my parents cell phone plan they decided to surprise me for chirstmas and get me a smartphone.... so depending on what that is.... lol I think it will be the iPhone 4s, if so I am sure I will like it, if not then whatever it is probably a droid.

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Crosscheck wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
WRONG! I didn't buy the 4s, and I have no plans to. ;)


Not wrong, I said "people like you"...not you specifically.
Apple sold 4 million 4s's in the first weekend alone...I'm guessing somewhere north of 85% of those were upgrades from a previous iPhone.

you know...the faithful...the true believers...people like you ;)


Fair enough. Although, for the record, I didn't upgrade my 3G to the 3Gs when that came about, either.

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http://androidheadlines.com/2011/12/fea ... tions.html

is apple that out of touch with reality?

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http://androidheadlines.com/2011/12/featured-apple-gets-laughed-at-for-their-tablet-design-suggestions.html

is apple that out of touch with reality?


That's pretty funny.

"Make your product look like crap and we won't sue you"

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:43 pm 
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/12/featured-apple-gets-laughed-at-for-their-tablet-design-suggestions.html

is apple that out of touch with reality?

Patents most likely. They have their design and don't want people ripping it off as their own, and why would Apple actually help out a competitor? That's like asking Ferrari's F1 team to help out with McLaren-Mercedes in aerodynamic design.

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Patents most likely. They have their design and don't want people ripping it off as their own, and why would Apple actually help out a competitor? That's like asking Ferrari's F1 team to help out with McLaren-Mercedes in aerodynamic design.


Asking that a tablet "not be rectangular" or to "not be thin" isn't a patent infringement complaint...it's absurd.

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/12/featured-apple-gets-laughed-at-for-their-tablet-design-suggestions.html

is apple that out of touch with reality?

Patents most likely. They have their design and don't want people ripping it off as their own, and why would Apple actually help out a competitor? That's like asking Ferrari's F1 team to help out with McLaren-Mercedes in aerodynamic design.


no. thats like ferrari telling mercedes their cars cant be aerodynamic at all. its a joke. and im glad its being treated as a joke.

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Crosscheck wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Patents most likely. They have their design and don't want people ripping it off as their own, and why would Apple actually help out a competitor? That's like asking Ferrari's F1 team to help out with McLaren-Mercedes in aerodynamic design.


Asking that a tablet "not be rectangular" or to "not be thin" isn't a patent infringement complaint...it's absurd.

Copyright infringement? I know it's absurd to think about, but they can copyright their design, but then again even copyrighted designs get cheap knock offs, think Rota wheels and every major wheel manufacturer.

So many loopholes anyways. I think it's just an epic troll job by Apple because they don't want to help Samsung out. Who knows, unless their really is a lawsuit going on? Is there?

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:52 pm 
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theres a lawsuit going on. last week, apple tried to get samsung to remove several phones and tablets off store shelves. the court quickly told apple that wasnt going to happen.

they wont win the court case. but they sure as hell are trying to monopolize the electronic industry.

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So many loopholes anyways. I think it's just an epic troll job by Apple because they don't want to help Samsung out. Who knows, unless their really is a lawsuit going on? Is there?

Uh...yes, Apple was trying to prevent Samsung android tablets from going to market in Europe.

Samsung even cited the movie 2001 as prior art in the case
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201108 ... sign.shtml

Apple simply cannot hold a patent on a thin rectangular tablet computing device.

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it wont happen, but

what whatll happen IF apple wins the case, and never overturned

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Crosscheck wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
So many loopholes anyways. I think it's just an epic troll job by Apple because they don't want to help Samsung out. Who knows, unless their really is a lawsuit going on? Is there?

Uh...yes, Apple was trying to prevent Samsung android tablets from going to market in Europe.

Samsung even cited the movie 2001 as prior art in the case
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201108 ... sign.shtml

Apple simply cannot hold a patent on a thin rectangular tablet computing device.

I forgot about that lawsuit, heard about it but never looked into it much. But one thing that Apple holds is a trademark registration by the European Union on a flat rounded corner rectangular device.

Not saying the lawsuit is right, but Samsung clearly broke that in the EU.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/61944044

I understand where they are coming from and they have every right to do so.

http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Lawsuit+ ... e22400.htm

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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...sigh....

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
...sigh....

Never said it was right, just saying they have every right to sue.

It is patent infringement, even the US case the judge said that. But Apple has trouble proving the validity of them. The Galaxy Tab does look almost identical to the iPad at a distance, every other tab it's easy to tell the difference.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/ ... 9C20111014
That's the US case.

Me personally, I don't care. I have no need for a tablet so I don't care if Apple Sues Samsung or if Samsung makes copies of iPads or even if Apple makes copies of Samsung.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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if they dont win, then no, its not really right to sue. obviously.

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This thread should be titled, "Android thread."

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