Has he done much after those 2 seasons? The past is the past. And there is no way he eclipses those #'s again unless he's playing beside Crosby...

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"If you want to know what I've been doing lately, I've been driving around from Tim Horton's to Tim Horton's, rolling up the rim. Haven't won anything yet. Thanks." - Lindy Ruff

made the exact same comment a few days ago regardin roy and how team plays better when hes not in the line up

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"If you want to know what I've been doing lately, I've been driving around from Tim Horton's to Tim Horton's, rolling up the rim. Haven't won anything yet. Thanks." - Lindy Ruff

I would be surprised if he is that much of a cancer, but you never know.

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You were saying??? We went from 7th to 10th because of last night.....

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I think all fans that want Ruff and Regier fired right now are overreacting because of the high hopes they had prior to this season.
A coaching or GM change won't fix this team and won't turn this team into a contender. Pegula felt Ruff and Darcy deserve a chance with enough resources, so let them finish the season and then analyze it. If they miss the playoffs (or 1st round exit) and still want to continue with the "core" fire them.

Coaching changes or minor trades doesn't turn this team into a contender. There is no point in doing it unless there is a chance to get a great coach or great player.

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With new management and the promise of the cup means that EVERYBODY has to BE at their very best and expectations HAVE to be REALLY high. That means now, that all the underachieving SOB's on the team need a stick to the back of the head.

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No, no, and no.

If this was their first year on the job, no one would be too upset.

It is their 15'th year on the job.

One Stanley Cup Final, with a John Muckler built team.

One Semi Final to their credit.

Presidents Trophy? If that's your Stanley Cup, then fine. It's sure as hell not mine.

If anything, many people are under reacting to them by supporting their presence.

Why people are upset is they've proven they can't win; yet are still here.

Big difference between a knee jerk reaction, and an opinion based over the course of 15 years.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

I think what they "wait-and-see" crowd is trying to say here Howie is that it hasn't been 15 years under these EXACT conditions. That Darcy Regier under Golisano and under Pegula are not the same thing. I can see what they mean and I can see what you mean.

We DID have Golisano for a long time. The cap restricting, computerized scouting owner...

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

I see your point, but no one complained when Terry announced he will stick with Lindy and Darcy in the offseason.

I'd rather have a clean cut in the offseason in order to give a new coach a fair chance. I don't think anyone could do much damage with this (injured) team right now and people would start screaming changing the coach was a mistake.

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Uh I complained. I had a feeling he would stick with Lindy but hoped that he was pretty fed up with him like some of us were. Obviously I was wrong....

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I kicked and screamed a lot when I heard Terry Pegula endorse Darcy and Lindy.

In fairness; it wasn't posted on this site, so most in here weren't privy to it.

Golisano let the club spend close to the salary cap most of the time he was the Sabres Owner.

Look; you can put a dress and lipstick on a pig. It is, however, still a pig.

My point is most of who complain about team management aren't doing so as a knee jerk reaction. They're doing it after years of frustration and bad moves.

Any expectation they could do better is solely based on emotion; not on rational thought or sports history.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

I'm not saying we don't need to make changes. But mid way through the season we shouldn't be trading players and dumping our coach and GM.

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

ill give em, of, two years with new mgt.


after that, fuck em.

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Exactly!!! 15 years is a pretty freaking long time for a coach and a GM to be on same team... With more seasons in the clouds than anything else to show for. Every year players tune out Ruff time and time again. And since Briere/Drury left Roy is supposed to be our #1 center and he IMO hasn't lived up to those expectations.

Honestly I'd rather place 15th in the conference then 8th this ... No way in hell we can beat any top team in the East. At least we can get a chance at a future NHL superstar....

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"If you want to know what I've been doing lately, I've been driving around from Tim Horton's to Tim Horton's, rolling up the rim. Haven't won anything yet. Thanks." - Lindy Ruff

Ahmen to that

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I agree I know we have 2 second rounders this year and if they keep playing this uninispired hockey they will definetly land in the top 10 in the draft. Trade Roy, Grags and Stafford and get a player and picks that will help us long term compared to to these lazy bums.
I had very high expectations this season not thinking we were a cup contender but at least be one of the better teams but what I have noticed that Vanek and Poms are the only two who have showed up on offense this season. But Poms is no captain for sure. I like him but isn't captain material.
McNabb, Kassian and a couple of the youngsters show up to play more than some of the vets. That Roy needs to be moved and same with Stafford and Grags. Leino plays a decent two way game but holds onto the puck way too long trying to make shit happen. Erhoff misses the net constantly and gets caught pinching too frequently. Miller's game isn't no way near where it should be. I know he lets in a softie here and there but it's occuring almost nightly now. Something needs to change if it's a player or two being moved or Ruff or Regier getting canned . Something has to happen because it's getting stale this routine.

Agreed. Something needs to be done.

Are we suggesting they fire management and trade all the players?

No; no one's naive enough to see that as rational thought.

The most logical move is to dismiss Darcy, and bring in a true hockey man. Rick Dudley comes to mind. Paul Hamilton is reporting that two NHL GM's talked trade with Darcy, but that Darcy continues to overvalue his players. Great excuse to do nothing.

You could fire the coach; who his players tune out. It's only what the rest of the world does when players tune out coaches; be it NHL, NFL, NBA, EPL, or other. A lot of guys who are good coaches; but not good coaches for the group they are/were in charge of. It's quite simple really.

I doubt Terry Pegula got to where he is by being a fuck up. I'm sure if he has fucked up in the past, he's figured a way to correct it. Let's hope he's thinking in those terms right mow.

And as an aside; his mocking his players could bite him in the ass. If he backs a coach whom the players don't care for, watch out. If they see that the owner blames them, and is exonerating the coach; watch out. This could get even uglier if he doesn't step it up.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

I would love to see this roster play a different brand of hockey. I would like to see the players use 1-2 practice days to decide what style they want and prep that way for the next game and see how it goes. Now THAT would be interesting.

Hahaha. Just read some other topics and you'll find them

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