Didn't say they either team wanted him gone. But he wasn't important enough to their core to keep him around.

What are you trying to argue right now? That the Leino signing was a good one?

The Drury comparison is perfect.

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Look, those are the only 53 points Ville Leino has in his career. There's no body of work to support any argument that Leino will 'bounce back', and that's because there IS no body of work. This is on a wing and a prayer. So was the signing. I can't see why you don't get this. Darcy threw his new found cash at him like a kid in a candy store. We needed a center, we got a lottery ticket.

So who were we going to get besides Leino? Arnott, who had what, 30 something points? I would've liked Arnott WITH Leino, but Leino was the best option available. No doubt.

Plus, the guy started picking it up. The whole team sucks right now, so blaming it on one guy is stupid. If the whole team is playing bad how is that grounds to personify the rest of his career?

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I'm trying to say the hate on Darcy for signing Leino is ridiculous. If Leino were to have been doing what he did in Philly right now you'd not be arguing my point.

Also, Drury has nothing to do with Leino. Nada.

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You like to blame it on LR, and he's one guy. Anyways, you're squirming at this point, and reaching for straws. No one is blaming Leino. They are concerned about him sucking, and worried about what his long-term deal could mean down the road as far as handcuffing our ability to get the REAL center we need. Signing a 9th winger when we had only one center with any ability was not the right move. You may be correct that it was the only move, tho. Let's face it, Darcy cannot face the fact that even tho a guy can sub in at center, they can't play it full time. Hecht, Boyes, Leino. All great examples. Meanwhile, we get to see Gaustad on the ice down by 2 with 4 minutes remaining, AGAIN, or Pominville taking draws on the PP. Neither of which are really Ruffs fault. The only other option is a rookie, or Roy(who Regier knew wasn't 100% going into the season, and is rarely healthy). It appears you'll defend Regier to the bitter end, so maybe we should just drop this. He's done good things, but I refuse to wear blinders.

Then saying "if Leino did what he did in Philly" means nada either. It's like saying if Fabian Brunnstrom had of kept up that pace he had for his first 5 NHL games, he'd have made Gretzky look silly. The guy had one decent year playing on a good line. Please let that sink in a bit.

No, comparing Leino to Leino means something because we're not comparing two completely different players, when one is retired already. We're also not talking about 5 games, we're talking about a whole season. If Darcy didn't sign Leino, or anybody, in free agency you would be upset about that, too.

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

I'm not blaming it ALL on Lindy. I'm blaming the players that play good every year now suddenly suck (outside of Staff infection).

You also seem to think Darcy can bring in a top forward for nothing, and somehow get the capspace cleared when there are no decent centers on the FA market...?

I'm defending Regier because bringing in Boyes, a 2nd Regher, Ehrhoff, and Leino and only getting rid of Butler and Byron and a 2nd is DOING HIS JOB. Damn good, I'd say.

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Sorry, but I don't fall for the whole patsy thing of, "if he did nothing you'd be mad". Anyone interested in a cup is not interested in sideways moves. Also, let's be clear, are you justifying the contract because of that one good year? Before you say yes, make sure you never posted anything about Stafford's contract then.

I don't like the contract. But considering we all heard Burke was trying his hardest to get Leino, and that the cap was climbing pretty high up, I don't think the move was bad enough to blame Darcy.

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Leino was also the best choice for our immediate need for a forward.

Also, when Myers was sucking it up in his second year, did we write him off because he only had 1 good season?

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This is all getting very confusing. I'm beginning to think Darcy can get so-so players, players that should work, but then it's Lindy's fault that they don't work? Wow. My head hurts.

Since when has Roy been rarely healthy?

The most games he had ever missed in a season prior to last year was 7 due to injury. His first four season's he missed 13 games total.

Rarely healthy my ass.

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My post is about this season. Get a grip. That leg is rumored to have atrophy. He has missed games for other reasons as well. Depending on Derek to play top minutes on a top line vs. top defensemen this season was foolish. Get it now? I can give a shit if you dispute me, but be sure you understand the context, before you go gettin all krunk.

You simply stated he wasn't 100% and Rarely healthy, how does "Rarely Healthy" only mean this season? He's missed what, 3 games this year?

Get your facts straight about Roy before you spew bullshit about him.

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But he isn't...

And you're clearly not getting that it's just a simple comparison. So I'll just let you think about it for awhile.

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Everyone knew Leino wouldn't live up to his contract right away, Regier even said that when we signed him.

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Can anyone give me a reasonable explanation why, given the reason for signing him, that Ruff never gave Leino a chance between Vanek and Pominville?

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Rarely healthy means he may have not have been 100% healthy before the season started. The dings and bruises haven't helped. Quit being a dickbag, because you can't comprehend what I'm saying. I'm not even bashing the guy, ffs. I'm bashing Darcy for throwing him into this spot. Sometimes you're intolerable.