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YankeeInRaleigh
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If you run Thomas, that's certainly a dirty move.



I dont know man...I feel like they have one coming. They are owed 1 goalie running, redeemable whenever one of our boys decides to nut up. I think i'm going to have to agree to disagree with you guys, even if it does make me look like a petty vindictive asshat. It was just THAT major a violation of our team psyche, look at what happened afterwards, it took us 2 months to get another back to back win!!


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NYIntensity
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I'm pretty sure I agree with you YiR, regardless of how much of a douche move it is. Eye for an eye.

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All due respect to your opinions, but I think that's a pussy-ass response. It's some kinda Tanya Harding shit that proves nothing except how unable they are to show their superiority in any kind of way that means anything to anybody.


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All due respect to your opinions, but I think that's a pussy-ass response. It's some kinda Tanya Harding shit that proves nothing except how unable they are to show their superiority in any kind of way that means anything to anybody.



Whoa whoa whoa....tonya harding shit? First off, that was OUTSIDE the rink, using thugs not even associated with the on-ice action. That would be like us hiring some dude to go kneecap Lucic on his way to the rink (Hm...not the worst idea ever...). What i'm advocating is payback in kind, a simple run of Thomas. I dont see sending Kaleta to run into thomas as anywhere near equivalent to tonya harding shit.

I guess we should be more specific about what we deem 'dirty'. I dont think running into/crosschecking a goalie is equivalent to breaking some chicks leg before she goes figure skating.


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Hitting a defenseless player because it's your only way to get some sort of revenge is not "tough". Isn't that what you want, for everyone to think the Sabres are tough? How does that make you tough?


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Hitting a defenseless player because it's your only way to get some sort of revenge is not "tough". Isn't that what you want, for everyone to think the Sabres are tough? How does that make you tough?


Ugh. The "moral high ground" doesn't make you better. It makes you a pussy. It makes you the kid who gets picked on at school every day, the one who loses his lunch money.

I'm sick of having my lunch money (points) taken away.

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This isn't about a moral high ground. How in the world does hitting Thomas help this team's toughness? What are teams gonna think "Oh, we better not fuck with them because 3 mo ths down the road they might try to hurt someone"? That's not gonna acheive jack. All it does is show just how fragile and defenseless the team really is IMO.

You want to stop people from making dirty plays against you? Then start scoring on 50% of your powerplays. I guarantee you that's far more effective. Bottom line as far as being tough is that the damage is done I think.


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YankeeInRaleigh
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Hitting a defenseless player because it's your only way to get some sort of revenge is not "tough". Isn't that what you want, for everyone to think the Sabres are tough? How does that make you tough?


Well, I dont believe i've been bitching about wanting 'everyone to think the sabres are tough', so not sure what you're talking about there. And I never said I thought that running thomas would be 'tough' either. Come to think of it, not sure what the hell you're talking about here stu. Revenge does not equal tough. Other words like 'payback' and 'fairplay' come to mind, but not 'tough'.


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This isn't about a moral high ground. How in the world does hitting Thomas help this team's toughness? What are teams gonna think "Oh, we better not fuck with them because 3 mo ths down the road they might try to hurt someone"? That's not gonna acheive jack. All it does is show just how fragile and defenseless the team really is IMO.

You want to stop people from making dirty plays against you? Then start scoring on 50% of your powerplays. I guarantee you that's far more effective. Bottom line as far as being tough is that the damage is done I think.


Scoring PP goals != toughness. I understand your point, and I don't disagree with your "3 months down the road" comment, either. I'm happier now with how the team has been playing than I was in the last 3 months, but I'm not going to lie and say I wouldn't feel some bit of pride if we returned the favor.

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Stuuuuuuu
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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
Hitting a defenseless player because it's your only way to get some sort of revenge is not "tough". Isn't that what you want, for everyone to think the Sabres are tough? How does that make you tough?


Well, I dont believe i've been bitching about wanting 'everyone to think the sabres are tough', so not sure what you're talking about there. And I never said I thought that running thomas would be 'tough' either. Come to think of it, not sure what the hell you're talking about here stu. Revenge does not equal tough. Other words like 'payback' and 'fairplay' come to mind, but not 'tough'.

That's what everybody around here was freaking out about at the time in my memory, being perceived as a pushover. I don't mean to lump you in with some imagined crowd or make assumptions, but I did make the assumption that that was what bothered you most, and I'm sorry if that was wrong.

OK, again, I don't see how going after anyone except Lucic makes sense for revenge in an eye-for-an-eye state of mind. I understand why you say go after the goalie, but he had nothing to do with it, and that makes it a pussy response in my eyes because it says you're afraid of Lucic. Also I have to admit that I do see some sort of "defending your honor" involved if you're talking about "payback". If not, and it's about just "revenge" without purpose or honor, it not only makes you seem dirty, it also opens you up to further acts of revenge.


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When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

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When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

That would be FAR more acceptable to me.


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And as a related comment, I'll say that as a poker player (this is the best competitive analogy I can come up with), if someone makes a rude comment to me, or does or says something that offends me, or gets lucky on me, I know from experience that concentrating on getting back at that person can get in the way of you performing your best. And in the final analysis, if you're tired of someone taking your luch money (points in this case NYIntensity), what you want to do is concentrate on what YOU are doing, not on getting "revenge". The money (points) is the real objective and the only real way to get your revenge: show you're better and win.


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I agree stuuuuuu. There is no way to get "revenge" from Boston physically. They are way too strong and will beat the Sabres into submission. The only way to beat them is for Miller to go out there and stop everything that is shot at him. Then the Sabres need to use their speed to run circles around Boston and to get away from the bullies like Chara, Lucic, and Marchant before they put us through the boards.

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NYIntensity wrote:
When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

do this....repeatedly :dance:

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sabresindc wrote:
I agree stuuuuuu. There is no way to get "revenge" from Boston physically. They are way too strong and will beat the Sabres into submission. The only way to beat them is for Miller to go out there and stop everything that is shot at him. Then the Sabres need to use their speed to run circles around Boston and to get away from the bullies like Chara, Lucic, and Marchant before they put us through the boards.

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When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

do this....repeatedly :dance:





All of this would help.


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Either our smallest or youngest guys.

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Either our smallest or youngest guys.

Only ones that play with pride 80-90% of the time. Haven't been corrupted into thinking that being pushed around is perfectly acceptable. Our young players get me really excited about the future of this organization. Ennis is going to be a stud. I felt that way going into this season. Gerbs is a grinder. McNabb and Kassian are tanks. We brought up Grags wayyyyy to early. I am ok with most of this team in what they are supposed to bring to this team, theoretically. I am not ok with Roy's disease infecting other members of this organization.


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NYIntensity wrote:
Either our smallest or youngest guys.

Only ones that play with pride 80-90% of the time. Haven't been corrupted into thinking that being pushed around is perfectly acceptable. Our young players get me really excited about the future of this organization. Ennis is going to be a stud. I felt that way going into this season. Gerbs is a grinder. McNabb and Kassian are tanks. We brought up Grags wayyyyy to early. I am ok with most of this team in what they are supposed to bring to this team, theoretically. I am not ok with Roy's disease infecting other members of this organization.


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When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

No need to go low. Just have gerbe and ennis light his ass up. They are low enough. Hit em hard and hit em often!

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NYIntensity wrote:
When you put it in that light, I agree with you. Run Lucic then. Go low on him.

No need to go low. Just have gerbe and ennis light his ass up. They are low enough. Hit em hard and hit em often!

Just get the timing right. Not sure I'd want to go low on Chara's tree trunk legs if he's bracing for it.

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