That's badass

I'm not getting flu shots myself but I think wanting natural selection back is mostly hypocritical because if you get really sick you'd probably take some medicine and I'm not talking about the flu. If you find a melanom on your kids body everybody would try to get medical help. That's also trying to beat natural selection...

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oh, and as we are all part of the population we could all be considered as part of the overpopulation. To think I'm the good part of the population and others are so selfish to overpopulate my planet is just arrogant. That's just my opinion, no offense

...suicide is the first step to fight overpopulation

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I was a little vague in my last post.

I'm not against medication. Obviously, if I were in a life or death situation, I'm not going to refuse treatment.

But if you fail to recognize that we're a parasitic race, then you're pretty closed minded.

The problem isn't HOW we're living. It's the amount of people we have living that way.

My reference to trying to control nature include our farming techniques, such as feeding livestock corn, who are naturally supposed to be grass fed.

Or how about Bill Gates presenting an idea to bring cold water up in front of hurricanes to weaken them?

Now, we're expending so much energy that we've created a global warming issue, and we're trying to counter that by coming up with ways to reflect more sunlight, instead of finding ways to reduce the amount of forests we destroy.

The list goes on and on.

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It's also arrogant to accuse people of arrogance for recognizing a problem and suggesting they kill themselves.

I'm not at fault for my existence. How I chose to conduct myself while I'm here is what I'm in control of.

I'm not having kids. And I'm making sure that other people are aware of this issue.

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I feel SO bad for that family. That is awful. Could you even imagine that?

On the rest of the thread...I believe in what Adam and Phil said. I am much more of a "naturalist" than most people are. I do not agree with taking painkillers for things like normal headaches and stratches and stuff.

Now again, i'm not talking about major hospital visits. If you're going into surgery, you need painkillers. And there are certain diseases people have that require modern medicine, so I won't downplay that.

But what pisses me off is the amount of people that take medicine because they think there is something wrong with them and there really isn't. Too many people getting medication for "depression" or "add or adhd" when a lot of that are just normal human emotions.

Oh this post has potential.

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depression is a basic form of human emotion. when the depression lasts too long, or gets too intense, thats no longer a basic human emotion. it becomes a condition. adhd? i had that shit, i needed medication. why? cause i was uncontrollable. thats not natural.

if i have tylenol, and i have a headache, i take it. and it gets rid of my headache. if thats weakness, well, thats cool with me. close minded is one thing, but you take it to another level.

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I said you were closed minded if you failed to recognize the parasitic tendencies of our species; NOT if you like to take Tylenol when you have a headache...

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Wheelhouse

i wasnt saying you.

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FLUE is all around me
I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes.
Swine Flue is all around me , and so the fuckin fear grows.

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HOCKEY IS BACK!

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Troggs, kind of?

I feel so terrible for this girl. I don't know if it'd influence me one way or another on a flu shot given the chances of getting the disease, but I hope they have some breakthroughs for her

I'm not saying it reflects any of the opinions of any of the posters above, but I worked with a conspiracy theorist who was anti-even giving babies vaccinations at birth. I think it's a slippery slope to start nitpicking which treatments available are necessary or evolutionary.

For this though, I say load up on healthy greens and vitamin c, and buy a box of tissues if you have to.

My mistake. Nobody else used the term closed minded, so I thought your post was directed towards me.

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Wheelhouse

nope. wasnt refering to you. your in the clear... for now...

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That is true in third world countries, but that is the least of the worries here.

I know you're in Austria and I don't have the slightest clue about your health over there.

I've never had a Flu shot, and I've never had the flu either.

I was one of the lucky people to never have got the Chicken Pox also.

Also PSP, the human race is not getting weaker at all. Our immune systems are so strong we hardly have to worry about many diseases 500 years ago.

Small Pox is non-exsistent now, Bubonic Plague is practically harmless to us since we're almost all immune to it. A simple flu in first world countries causes a week of sickness instead of death. We do not die from pneumonia now, we can if older and weak, but not when you're healthy. The human race's immune system is strong and it's only going to get strong. the only diseases we will have are ones that mutate regularly to be undetectable, like HIV/AIDs, and the Flu.

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I wouldn't call ADD or ADHD just normal human emotion. How does Attention Deficit Disorder or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder involve emotions???? How is someone's brain going so quickly that they cannot concentrate on anything have to do with emotion....I agree with you that we are over-medicating people instead of teaching them coping mechanisms but your comparisons are a little off....

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I think the news media is completely out of control and the H1N1 scare is a perfect example. Everyday we hear that there isn't enough vaccine and that our kids are going die without it.

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Haha. All three of my brothers that are home at the moment currently have swine flu. My father had it last week. Yeah...



That, and it is not at all the severity or longevity of depression that indicates whether or not medication is necessary but the circumstances in which it is experienced. Situational depression can be just as bad as the worst, soul-piercing and soul-numbing clinical depression (I know technically clinical depression can be situational, but it's the only way I know how to make the distinction using concise terminology), and it can last for years without therapy (i.e. depression caused by abuse or by the death of someone who was that person's entire world), but medication won't do a thing except maybe make the person impervious to any emotion whatsoever, which is worse than severe emotional pain. Whether or not medication is necessary and/or would be helpful is dependent not on the length or severity of depression but on the root cause of it. Grief is a normal human emotion, but it can be profoundly painful. Feeling worthless and falling apart over the smallest things after abuse is normal. Feeling empty and hopeless because you have everything in the world but nobody to call a friend is normal. Wanting to kill yourself when you know that you are loved, when you were previously always happy but nothing in your life has changed? Not so much.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

And that's not true at all.

Many people have got it, and it's no worse than a regular flu.

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The swine flu, or H1N1 whatever, is milder than the regular flu and has a 0.5% mortality rate the last I saw, while the regular flu's mortality rate is 1%. So, uh.

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Miles to go before I sleep

‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran