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End The Curse
 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:34 am 
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There was a strange sense of "prescience" present in the film "V For Vendetta" - Especially so when the government begins to barrage it's citizens with all the alarmism and misinformation and doomsday broadcasts...

There's only so much shit you can put on a sensible person's plate, before the whole fucking room starts to reek of it. One cannot rule happy, confident, joyful people. They cannot be manipulated.They cannot be set against each other.

[edit: ...to be sure, one cannot rule a citizenry in which all hope is absent, as well - the complacency won't accommodate any action, other than a shrug.]

Whipping up the proles is one of the The Party's specialties. Three key elements of emotional manipulation are critical for proper indoctrination.

    1. Hate: Hate the insurance companies, hate the Chamber of Commerce, hate the big corporations, hate the news networks and opinion media that question The Party, hate the greedy upper class who don't pay their fair share, hate the inequity between the rich and the poor, hate those who won't go green and save the planet, hate those who oppose diversity quotas, and, most importantly, hate those in opposition to The Party's solutions.

    2. Fear: Fear imminent pandemics, fear apocalyptic global warming, fear America's reputation in the world, fear economic collapse and despair, and fear what could happen to you if you oppose The Party's solutions.

    3. Love: Love The Party, for they'll save you from yourselves. They will save the common people, save the country, save the world, save the planet, and provide for you better than you could ever provide for yourself.

Incrementally, The Party's strategy is to marginalize all opposition in this manner and phase out the two-party or multi-party system of government in the name of unity. By eventually removing constitutional barriers to maintaining power as an emergency measure, the hated opposition's dastardly, devious apocalyptic schemes will never be successfully hatched, and we will all be saved by The Party.

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:12 pm 
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    1. Hate: Hate the terrorists, hate the unpatriotic, hate the news networks and opinion media that question The Party, hate the godless, hate the inequity between the rich and the poor, hate those who believe that humanity and america have a responsibility to not destroy the planet, hate the disadvantaged, disenfranchied and the foreign, and, most importantly, hate those in opposition to The Party's solutions.

    2. Fear: Fear terrorist attacks, fear biological warfare possibilities, fear being seen as weak or a traitor, fear homosexuality, and fear what could happen to you if you oppose The Party's solutions.

    3. Love: Love The Party, for they'll save you from yourselves. They will save the common people, save the country, save the world, save the planet, and provide for you better than you could ever provide for yourself. Love the country, do not question the motives or actions of its leaders...or the terrorists will have won.

We've seen this schtick before.......

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:31 pm 
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In your analogy The Country is the power to fear, whereas in my example it's The Party. Fear and hatred of country is definitely high octane fuel for strengthening The Party, and it's a strategy they certainly implement with deft skill and frequency.

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:53 pm 
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"...the sky is falling!...the sky is falling!..."

Funny how the simplest analogy can cast a mockery upon the intricate conspiracies of a fledgling empire...

BTW: Bonus Points for the proper response to all the fear-mongering: "Eat me."

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:39 pm 
End The Curse wrote:
icehound wrote:
There was a strange sense of "prescience" present in the film "V For Vendetta" - Especially so when the government begins to barrage it's citizens with all the alarmism and misinformation and doomsday broadcasts...

There's only so much shit you can put on a sensible person's plate, before the whole fucking room starts to reek of it. One cannot rule happy, confident, joyful people. They cannot be manipulated.They cannot be set against each other.

[edit: ...to be sure, one cannot rule a citizenry in which all hope is absent, as well - the complacency won't accommodate any action, other than a shrug.]

Whipping up the proles is one of the The Party's specialties. Three key elements of emotional manipulation are critical for proper indoctrination.

    1. Hate: Hate the insurance companies, hate the Chamber of Commerce, hate the big corporations, hate the news networks and opinion media that question The Party, hate the greedy upper class who don't pay their fair share, hate the inequity between the rich and the poor, hate those who won't go green and save the planet, hate those who oppose diversity quotas, and, most importantly, hate those in opposition to The Party's solutions.

    2. Fear: Fear imminent pandemics, fear apocalyptic global warming, fear America's reputation in the world, fear economic collapse and despair, and fear what could happen to you if you oppose The Party's solutions.

    3. Love: Love The Party, for they'll save you from yourselves. They will save the common people, save the country, save the world, save the planet, and provide for you better than you could ever provide for yourself.

Incrementally, The Party's strategy is to marginalize all opposition in this manner and phase out the two-party or multi-party system of government in the name of unity. By eventually removing constitutional barriers to maintaining power as an emergency measure, the hated opposition's dastardly, devious apocalyptic schemes will never be successfully hatched, and we will all be saved by The Party.


Funny how Republicans pipe when the other guys do it but deny fiercely anything said or done by their guys that represent the same fear mongering crap. The amount of fear and hate peddling done by the right is sickening. To add to that, the right just last week were bitching and moaning about how Obama wasn't doing "enough" about the swine flu...now he does and he's bashed for it. Make up your fucking minds or at least admit that you're going to bitch about any move he makes so we can ignore you. Fuck.


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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:41 pm 
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To add to that, the right just last week were bitching and moaning about how Obama wasn't doing "enough" about the swine flu...now he does and he's bashed for it. Make up your fucking minds or at least admit that you're going to bitch about any move he makes so we can ignore you. Fuck.

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:44 pm 
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Right, left, what-the-fuck-ever as if there's a difference...

It's about control. Some having it, and others bowing to it.

The illusion is choice - The same kind of choice a lab rat has in a maze...it's still their maze. And one is still forced to believe that one must "run" it.


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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:50 pm 
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icehound wrote:
Right, left, what-the-fuck-ever as if there's a difference...

It's about control. Some having it, and others bowing to it.

The illusion is choice - The same kind of choice a lab rat has in a maze...it's still their maze. And one is still forced to believe that one must "run" it.


All that matters is The Party...absolute power corrects absolutely.

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:41 pm 
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Displaced Fan wrote:
End The Curse wrote:
icehound wrote:
There was a strange sense of "prescience" present in the film "V For Vendetta" - Especially so when the government begins to barrage it's citizens with all the alarmism and misinformation and doomsday broadcasts...

There's only so much shit you can put on a sensible person's plate, before the whole fucking room starts to reek of it. One cannot rule happy, confident, joyful people. They cannot be manipulated.They cannot be set against each other.

[edit: ...to be sure, one cannot rule a citizenry in which all hope is absent, as well - the complacency won't accommodate any action, other than a shrug.]

Whipping up the proles is one of the The Party's specialties. Three key elements of emotional manipulation are critical for proper indoctrination.

    1. Hate: Hate the insurance companies, hate the Chamber of Commerce, hate the big corporations, hate the news networks and opinion media that question The Party, hate the greedy upper class who don't pay their fair share, hate the inequity between the rich and the poor, hate those who won't go green and save the planet, hate those who oppose diversity quotas, and, most importantly, hate those in opposition to The Party's solutions.

    2. Fear: Fear imminent pandemics, fear apocalyptic global warming, fear America's reputation in the world, fear economic collapse and despair, and fear what could happen to you if you oppose The Party's solutions.

    3. Love: Love The Party, for they'll save you from yourselves. They will save the common people, save the country, save the world, save the planet, and provide for you better than you could ever provide for yourself.

Incrementally, The Party's strategy is to marginalize all opposition in this manner and phase out the two-party or multi-party system of government in the name of unity. By eventually removing constitutional barriers to maintaining power as an emergency measure, the hated opposition's dastardly, devious apocalyptic schemes will never be successfully hatched, and we will all be saved by The Party.


Funny how Republicans pipe when the other guys do it but deny fiercely anything said or done by their guys that represent the same fear mongering crap. The amount of fear and hate peddling done by the right is sickening. To add to that, the right just last week were bitching and moaning about how Obama wasn't doing "enough" about the swine flu...now he does and he's bashed for it. Make up your fucking minds or at least admit that you're going to bitch about any move he makes so we can ignore you. Fuck.


What alert level are we at?

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:55 pm 
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
What alert level are we at?


We've escalated from "That's Not Nice" to "I Don't Know If I Like You, Anymore."

We may yet rise again, to: "I Knew I Had A Good Reason To Hate You."

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:30 pm 
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To add to that, the right just last week were bitching and moaning about how Obama wasn't doing "enough" about the swine flu...now he does and he's bashed for it. Make up your fucking minds or at least admit that you're going to bitch about any move he makes so we can ignore you. Fuck.

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 Post subject: Re: National Emergency
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:13 pm 
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icehound wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
What alert level are we at?


We've escalated from "That's Not Nice" to "I Don't Know If I Like You, Anymore."

We may yet rise again, to: "I Knew I Had A Good Reason To Hate You."

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Psh, it is a well known fact that I disagree with anyone that doesn't agree with me...

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