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mechaphil
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I hate being caught in the middle of the party war, because I have conservative economic views but liberal social views. Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.

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I hate being caught in the middle of the party war, because I have conservative economic views but liberal social views. Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.


So your more Independant? lol

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I'm a bit of both, so I don't know exactly what the fuck I am. Moderate? Who knows.

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I'm a bit of both, so I don't know exactly what the fuck I am. Moderate? Who knows.

Fiscal conservative + social liberal = Libertarian

but you know that ;)

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Crosscheck wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
I'm a bit of both, so I don't know exactly what the fuck I am. Moderate? Who knows.

Fiscal conservative + social liberal = Libertarian

but you know that ;)

Oh wait...hell, I did know that :)

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While people said Bush was favored by FOX is not lie, no secret, but Bush never invited a select group of Journalists from FOX only.... this is what Obama is doing, but with MSNBC and CNN.


Read the fucking link I posted in post number 2.

Bush did EXACTLY that.

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Squanto wrote:
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While people said Bush was favored by FOX is not lie, no secret, but Bush never invited a select group of Journalists from FOX only.... this is what Obama is doing, but with MSNBC and CNN.


Read the fucking link I posted in post number 2.

Bush did EXACTLY that.

This is nothing new.


No need to get angry. I jumped in late in the topic, I didnt really read a lot of the begining just skimmed over it.

EDIT: Alrighty I read your link, First I would like to know how credible that site is, Ive never heard of them. Also, Now that I think about it, im sure almost every president has done something like that...

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mechaphil wrote:
Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.

Fear not, for soon it could be a one party system...be careful what you wish for.

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Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.

Fear not, for soon it could be a one party system...be careful what you wish for.

Dude, I never said once I hoped for a one party system. I wish there were more parties eligible for providing a candidate to run for POTUS.

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Squanto wrote:
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While people said Bush was favored by FOX is not lie, no secret, but Bush never invited a select group of Journalists from FOX only.... this is what Obama is doing, but with MSNBC and CNN.


Read the fucking link I posted in post number 2.

Bush did EXACTLY that.

This is nothing new.

No, he did not. Of course Bush invited conservatives in broadcasting to the White House, but not a FOX only meeting. The point that some on the more militant left miss is that never before has a president actively and openly attempted to bring down a news organization for showing disloyalty to The Party. That Obama publicly ripped FOX for having conservative opinion, and then invited the hard left MSNBC crew for strategic discussions, reflects something much more sinister than "fairness"...it's a power grab for Party controlled media.

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mechaphil wrote:
End The Curse wrote:
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Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.

Fear not, for soon it could be a one party system...be careful what you wish for.

Dude, I never said once I hoped for a one party system. I wish there were more parties eligible for providing a candidate to run for POTUS.

I know what you meant, but thought I'd point out that things could get a lot worse. ;)

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Touche, good sir, and well played ;)

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I havent read this entire thread, to much tequila...all I know is that piece of shit Maddoff cost my retirement fund millions, and likely cost me a hundred grand......people die every day for ten bucks. Why didnt this bailout crap include bailing out the hundreds of thousands of taxpaying citizens and cover this atrocity instead of giving free money to companies who couldn't stay in business anyway? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. mother fuck rot in hell! him and his fuckin rich wife, brother, cousin.......

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mechaphil wrote:
End The Curse wrote:
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Oh well, such is the epic fail of a two party system.

Fear not, for soon it could be a one party system...be careful what you wish for.

Dude, I never said once I hoped for a one party system. I wish there were more parties eligible for providing a candidate to run for POTUS.


So more like the Canadian government? I think ... :? right? dont they have like 6 parties or whatever? Maybe not... If im not right im sure someone would correct me.. lol.

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ItsMe wrote:
I havent read this entire thread, to much tequila...all I know is that piece of shit Maddoff cost my retirement fund millions, and likely cost me a hundred grand......people die every day for ten bucks. Why didnt this bailout crap include bailing out the hundreds of thousands of taxpaying citizens and cover this atrocity instead of giving free money to companies who couldn't stay in business anyway? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. mother fuck rot in hell! him and his fuckin rich wife, brother, cousin.......

:lol: :lol: You really have had too much tequila. Maddow not Madoff.

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Yeah fuck him too,,,,fuck em both!


w looks like two ff's to me...buy the bar a round!!!!!!!

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No need to get angry. I jumped in late in the topic, I didnt really read a lot of the begining just skimmed over it.

EDIT: Alrighty I read your link, First I would like to know how credible that site is, Ive never heard of them. Also, Now that I think about it, im sure almost every president has done something like that...


I'm trying not to get angry, but quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the current administration being constantly based for the same things that the LAST administration did.

ThinkProgress.org? It's a blog run by the Center for American Progress. It's more liberal, no argument about that, but generally pretty reputable. There are other sources that reported this same 2006 meeting if you want independent confirmation.

The point is that if you're going to criticize Obama for doing something, you sure as hell better criticize Bush when it's pointed out he did the exact same thing. If the act is so bad, then it shouldn't matter what party did it, right?


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Squanto wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
No need to get angry. I jumped in late in the topic, I didnt really read a lot of the begining just skimmed over it.

EDIT: Alrighty I read your link, First I would like to know how credible that site is, Ive never heard of them. Also, Now that I think about it, im sure almost every president has done something like that...


I'm trying not to get angry, but quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the current administration being constantly based for the same things that the LAST administration did.

ThinkProgress.org? It's a blog run by the Center for American Progress. It's more liberal, no argument about that, but generally pretty reputable. There are other sources that reported this same 2006 meeting if you want independent confirmation.

The point is that if you're going to criticize Obama for doing something, you sure as hell better criticize Bush when it's pointed out he did the exact same thing. If the act is so bad, then it shouldn't matter what party did it, right?



I never said Bush was perfect in fact I know he isnt. So ya no worries dude, I know that he isnt and I know he had his flaws. Plus I never said that the Obama admin. is the same as the Bush Admin, No way are they the same I know this No worrys. and thanks for that site, ill look into it more. Even though I dont always agre with liberal views its nice to read some changes every once in a while lol. But ya dont worry Im not trying to get you upset or anything

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I'm a bit of both, so I don't know exactly what the fuck I am. Moderate? Who knows.

Fiscal conservative + social liberal = Libertarian

but you know that ;)

Well, sort of. The problem here is social liberalism cannot Co-exist with fiscal conservatism without putting something on the credit card. But hey, I am a Ron Paul supporter so, i digress to a simplier form of governing.
The complexities of the issues are really quite simple for us Libertarians, hey Crosscheck ;)

I do not believe in social safety nets, every person is accountable for their own actions, in turn, their actions should be driven to better themselves and their lives by holding themselves accountable for their actions. :D

The real problem with the "Right" and "Left" labels is that they are one in the same, both have spent the country into submission and put this great Republics future in jeopardy. Its merely a matter of semantics now, but back many, many and I mean many years ago the party platform did actually attempt to act on the platform for which it stood. No longer is this case. Corporatism through lobbying now controls this great nation and until people see the real light of day, this will continue.

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