Obviously every person on here will trade Vanek if we KNEW it would help our team..

How is scoring a "problem"?? We have scored an average of 3 goals a game (13th in the NHL).. It may be the weaker part of our game, but it's far from a problem, especially since we are giving up the 2nd least amount of goals per game(2.18)..

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KILL OTTAWA

This team needs a player who's number one stat is game winning goals...

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People have to admit that inconsistency with just about every part of their game has plagued this team for the last several years. Yes, we don't have that player everyone looks to in a clutch but the main focus of the off-season acquisitions was to buildup our defense which was in severe need of fixing. I'm happy with the way the team has played so far but it's early. I'm not totally convinced that they'll be seeing a post-season and if we do, they'll need to definitely pick up someone at the deadline to help the scoring. Hopefully our #1's will start doing what we pay them to do.....

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There's nothing Grier, Rivet, or Montador is going to teach the top six forwards about scoring. As long as they keep creating scoring chances, pucks will go in. That's really the only thing forwards (minus Kovalchuk and Ovechkin) can do on a consistent basis. Goals usually come in bunches for most players, but as long as they keep the scoring chances coming they are doing the right things.

The additions of this team were not meant for scoring, and in my most humbled opinion, that is what this team is short on. We shall see, but these first games have proven what we have all known for the past 2 seasons, scoring IS A PROBLEM! Come on now, don't hide the truth, get it out there to be a "SOLVABLE PROBLEM". This includes trades combined with call ups to complete the transition of this team to a true competitor. Only time, combined with recommendations and trades wil tell.

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Wow, you just keep writing more and more bullshit... How has scoring been the problem for the past 2 seasons??

07-08: 4th in the NHL in scoring...
08-09: 10th in the NHL in scoring...

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Hahaha it's doomsday here for people.

It's okay with me. This is the season. We win and have fun, or lose and finally change.

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I'm not overly concerned. There were stretches of last season where they played some very bad games. We haven't seen that yet. We've seen periods, even two in one game, but we haven't seen an out and out bad game yet. Plus the entire team is down with the sickness, and they've looked it.

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I'm not going to call this a problem. It's too early in the season for this to be a genuine problem yet. Now if we were scoring 1.5 a game or something low and ridiculous then I would be worried and might start a thread like this, but since we are near/at 3 per game and the opposition is near 2... I see no problem here.

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The biggest reason we lost was the fact Goose and Kaleta WERE not there to dish out the physicality of the game in our favor.

You notice when they are not there.

MacArthur has 5 goals, Connolly has 4, Vanek has 4, and Stafford has 4.

So we do not have 4 guys who have put the puck into the net at all? The only forwards to not score has been Roy, Goose, and Mair. Mair has only played in 3 games this year also.

But Roy has 8 assists on the season.

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Gaustad currently has 2 goals and 2 assists, with a +6 rating.

Guys, scoring consistently won't be our problem this year. Roy and Connolly have combined for 4 goals. All by Timmy, and two in the last game. Roy has yet to heat up, Timmy is starting to heat up, Vanek hasn't hit his stride, and we have a number of players that can, and probably will, step up their scoring game.

I'm not worried about scoring goals this year. We have 4 very good lines, and 3 that can put it in the net consistently, and the 4th will give us 20 goals, too.

I think I looked at Rivet's stats and thought it was Goose.

So Roy and mair are the only two forwards without a goal.

And Sekera, Paestch and Lydman are the only guys without a point. But they each have only played in 4 games this year.

Our only d-man with a goal is Myers also.

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Monator and Rivet are defensemen and were not know as offensive-defensmen either. They were brought in (along with Grier) to give some much needed toughness to this team. We have scorers and it's still early to tell if they will give us what we pay them for. Most NHL scorers are not overly productive (excluding Ovechkin) this early in the season because they haven't hit their stride. Malkin (injured) and Crosby are not even in the top 5 (although Crosby is 9th). If Vanek, Roy, Connolly hasn't been productive by Christmas, then we need to be concerned.

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Interesting, and where did the team finish in the standings in these seasons..................and you say I write bullshit? Hmmmm..................ok, I'll just blindly follow your "faith" based system of "they will come around, trust me" mentality. I think the die hard bills fans are still saying this, 15 fuckin years later.

Read the title of the post...............Consisten Scoring. No one is saying the team can't score.
So your belief is if we score 24, 6 goal games and have 36, 1 goal games that makes this team better.
I want what your smokin...................

Consistent scoring also adds a touch of "clutch performer" when we need it. I was stunned when Darcy shipped Paille out, I am hoping he is actively prusuing other deals and gets a good fit player for our remaining need. Defensively this team is sound, Offensively it may need an additional player that can spark a line to success "consistently".

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We finished 10th in the Eastern Conference in both of those seasons because we gave up way too many goals.. Obviously, our Defense was what made us miss the playoff the past 2 seasons... You see, Defense was the problem, not Offense..

We aren't going to have 24, 6 goal games and 36, 1 goal games.. Every team (even the best teams) is going to have 6 goals one game and 1 goal a different game.. This is the NHL.. It's been that way for a long time and it's never going to change..

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...some leopards refuse to change their spots. Veteran leadership, or not, a vain or indifferent player will not subsume his will or abilities to a team concept.

Unless one has an extraordinary way to motivate him.

I agree and I also think this team is doing just fine so far. Some people are incorrectly absorbing the post as an attack on the team on the Ice, this is just not so.
I think there have been major improvements on this team from last season and the defense is one of those improvements. It is only logical to look at a possible next step for further success. And people have to confess, there is not a consistent scorer on the team. The question I would have is what is a consistent scorer and who establishes those parameters that must be met in order to be a consistent scorer.
I would use "opinion" from my end and say a consistent seasonal scorer is one who puts in over 35 goals in a season, who also puts up 45 to 50 assists, who scores "clutch goals" at clutch times" and finally, this individual performance would act to enhance his linemates, and teammates to elevate their play around the net.

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