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YankeeInRaleigh
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:18 pm 
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I hate to be "that guy" again, but if the government was to decriminalize marijuana we would open up about 50% of our jail space for true criminals, more than likely lowering costs/taxes also.



Well, as far as I go, you're preachin to the choir.


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The issue isnt whether or not the death penalty is a deterrent, nor terrorist, nor any religious issues. We dont need nut bags like this walking around in society. And on the question of deterrence, first, as Plato said, people cannot be just (moral) without the threat of some punishment involved, and that punishment has no merit unless the punishment is related to the unjust act. That being said, do you think that some character who is about to lose it might have enough of his sane faculties left to figure that he will be fried if he continues? Whether or not he would rather die, the innate desire for self preservation may stop him or her from going through with it....aside from all that, the fuck should be locked in a dark solitude room with no fan fare what so ever and shot! But the fucking media will milk this thing ad nausium and make a political, religious, and circus out of this incident totally ignoring (after milking the personal trajedy out of it) the victims and their grieving families.

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So basically either way, dude proved his point, shot a bunch of people up, got the media spectacle and his "job" is done now. If he goes to jail or gets killed it wont matter to him. He did his duty and was smart enough to know the reprecussions. He was obviously an intelligent man, so obviously he felt the deaths of these people were more important than his own life. He'll pay the consequence either way


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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Sk8haggard9 wrote:
I hate to be "that guy" again, but if the government was to decriminalize marijuana we would open up about 50% of our jail space for true criminals, more than likely lowering costs/taxes also.



Well, as far as I go, you're preachin to the choir.

I'm also part of that choir, mates.

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I'm also an advocate of legalizing pot, and I've NEVER smoked. It's such a waste of money, both investigating and prosecuting the "perpetrators" AND supporting their asses in prison.

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This thread is now about legalizing pot? Wow, how things have strayed. Okay, as long as things have changed direction, let me add that I want to lower the drinking age back to 18. 21 is fucking ridiculous, and bars should not have to worry about arrests and fines for serving a grown man a beer.

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If they can ship kids off to war to defend "our" country at the age of 18, for heavens sake allow 18 years old to have a goddamn beer!


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Meh....I think we'd have a lot more problems if the legal drinking age was 21, to be honest.

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End The Curse wrote:
This thread is now about legalizing pot? Wow, how things have strayed. Okay, as long as things have changed direction, let me add that I want to lower the drinking age back to 18. 21 is fucking ridiculous, and bars should not have to worry about arrests and fines for serving a grown man a beer.


Kinda what the media will do and the generalized sheep will blindly follow....shield the real point with political rhetoric and mud slinging bullshit until finally the victims and the grieving families will be lost to "more important issues"..... *continuously smacks self in the head with a hammer*

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He's failed miserably at handling this so far, so I'm not expecting much more.

HIS agenda is more important than dead soldiers, apparently.


You're actually criticizing Obama for WAITING FOR ALL THE FACTS before making a decision?

How terrible of him.


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Squanto wrote:
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He's failed miserably at handling this so far, so I'm not expecting much more.

HIS agenda is more important than dead soldiers, apparently.


You're actually criticizing Obama for WAITING FOR ALL THE FACTS before making a decision?

How terrible of him.


You know what I meant, asshole. He hasn't shown enough sympathy to the victims and their families. I could give a fuck how he criticizes the shooter.

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You know what I meant, asshole. He hasn't shown enough sympathy to the victims and their families. I could give a fuck how he criticizes the shooter.


Typical Faux News talking point.

He's already visited with the injured in the hospital. He's ordered flags flown at half staff, which he called a modest tribute, but I personally see as much larger. You don't know everything he's said and done with regard to the victims of this tragedy.

I wish people would stop fucking politicizing every god damn thing the guys does/doesn't do/say/doesn't say.


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Personally, in this case I dont give a rats ass what the President does or says right now...... 13 people are dead! And some character with wires crossed did it! AND I dont care what any other underlying facts, concepts, or whether there may have been something someone could have done, or if his mother or father hated him or not! 13 people are dead! That person is responsible and has to take responsibility for killing 13 people. The gun didnt do it, society didnt do it, the Muslim religion didnt do it, HE did it! We listen to the sensationalized bullshit that the news media is squirting out in hopes of higher ratings and America sits right there and eats that bullshit like it were the last supper...and bullshit spews right out of our asses. Rant over

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Well, he's off the ventilator, so let's see where this goes now.

BO has made the correct moves NOW, but he took his sweet-ass time doing it.

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I wholeheartedly agree with the death penalty, especially for mass murder. I'm just concerned that our president will not authorize it


This.

I am of the opinion that he should be forced to sit in an empty cafeteria for a few days *getting daily meals* and then on the second or third day someone should stand up and shoot him for no apparent reason.

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Even though I feel very strongly that this was nothing more than a case of a psychotic break and not some sort of terrorist shenanigans, I still feel the death penalty is necessary.

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