How it should be:

Eastern Conference

Northeast
Team.............W. L Pts
Buffalo............16 9 32
Boston............14 13 28
Ottawa............13 13 36
Montreal..........12 16 24
Toronto............8 19 16

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if you went with wins and losses, couldnt you just sort by winning percentage? points only have merrit, really, if there are more options then either 2 or 0 points.

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Sorry Mike, I never want to see a tie in anything, ever. Unless its comically bad like the Bengals-Eagles game last year.

Ties are for lesser sports where diving is an acceptable tactic.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

Basically this, but just drop the points column. As irony already said, doesn't make much sense if it's two points for a win / 0 points for a loss.

When ties are not in play, the entire process becomes a million times simpler.

I'm with CriminallyVu1gar. I could probably deal with ties, but knowing a winner and a loser is alot more fun. Even though the shootout is gimmicky, it works for the non-hardcore fans and gives a decent sense of finallity. The home crowd is always happy after a shootout basically, as they either win or can just say, "Hey... what you gonna do? We lost, but it was in the shootout."

Winners and Losers are good for sports.

so, it would become a factor of winning percentage and games behind, similar to major league baseball and nba basketball.

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I could live with that, for sure. W/L is so much easier to factor than points.

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mechaphil

I don't see why we can't have a 10 or 20 minute sudden death overtime with a shootout following. It's not like hockey games are that long to begin with. Not like football which can get bloated to 3:30 with commercials, and abysmally long baseball games. Hockey is usually done in about 2:40.

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Well, traditionally hockey has had points so for that reason alone I would keep doing it. However, you are absolutely right that it wouldn't really have any statistical meaning.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

and thats where a point system could hurt in the wins and loses. sometimes, youll see a 6-3 team below a 7-4 team. games behind, even. but the 6-3 team has a higher winning percentage. but in points terms, is below the 7-4 team. hence why they would have to either go with points, and throw winning percentage out the window, or vice versa. cant do both. personally, if your going with wins and losses, winning percentage takes the cake.

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Semantics. If it's just about the number of wins than points still works, too. Either way, no argument from me just so long as ties are out and OT/shootout losses count for zero points.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

fair enough, etc. i can get behind that.

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I still like the old system of 2 pts for a win, 1 point for a tie and ZERO points for a loss. I don't care if you lose in the first 60 minutes, in OT 4v4 play or a shootout...a loss is a loss and you shouldn't get jack shit out of it.

As far as the 3 point system...its just plain stupid. If you stop trying help out the crappy teams then you don't have to make it more rewarding for good teams. If you are going to implement the 3 pt victory system just revert back to old system...ITS THE SAME DAMN THING!!!

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"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula

How can you have 1 point for a tie when there are no ties?

i think, like me, he likes the old system. the 98-99 and prior system.

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That may be true, but the way he worded his post makes it sound like he thinks the tie is still in effect.

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mechaphil

he said he likes the old system. i dunno.

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In the old system, there were actually ties...thats my main point. The old system worked.

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"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula

He worded everything in the present tense, not the past tense. That's what I was going off of, and I'm sure it's the same for Squanto. Just saying he likes the old system doesn't discount the fact that the way he wrote that implies that there is still a tie in addition to the shootout and the 4 on 4 OT.

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mechaphil

We know about the ties from back in the day, he was just unsure because of how you worded it if you still for some reason believed there still were ties.

This whole thing just went to shit. Let's get back on topic.

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