we disagree...

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"on the ice now for buffalo, looking for the pass, and gets it, afinogenov, couldnt get the shot away, now HE DOES, HE SCORES!!!! HOLY MACKEREL ROLE THE HIGH LIGHT FILM, MAXIM AFINOGENOV, WHAT A MOVE!!!!.... thats not fair... that was unbelievable"
-R.J. and Lorenz

This is also true. Notice how Ennis, Gerbe, and especially Myers were all trusted with a ton of ice time?
But then again, Mancari did play 7 minutes. How can you be that invisible for 7 minutes. I'm no great hockey player, but if I had a shot in the NHL for 7 minutes....I would be moving my feet, throwing checks, and shooting at every oppurtunity.

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Haha also Myers and Kennedy.

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Myers is obviously a special exception, but Gerbe and Kennedy have been up before without doing anything special. Ennis had a decent game but he also looked out of place at times during that Philly game. As I said before, Kennedy also took two weeks before he started to play his game, and he still needs to get stronger in order to improve. All I'm saying is that Mancari is not a lost cause just yet, and last night didn't decide the issue.

lol good call

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FIGHTER OF THE NIGHTMAN

"on the ice now for buffalo, looking for the pass, and gets it, afinogenov, couldnt get the shot away, now HE DOES, HE SCORES!!!! HOLY MACKEREL ROLE THE HIGH LIGHT FILM, MAXIM AFINOGENOV, WHAT A MOVE!!!!.... thats not fair... that was unbelievable"
-R.J. and Lorenz

lol, you realize your hypocrisy in saying that right? yo were just saying not to blame mancari for his previous call ups and to look past them

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FIGHTER OF THE NIGHTMAN

"on the ice now for buffalo, looking for the pass, and gets it, afinogenov, couldnt get the shot away, now HE DOES, HE SCORES!!!! HOLY MACKEREL ROLE THE HIGH LIGHT FILM, MAXIM AFINOGENOV, WHAT A MOVE!!!!.... thats not fair... that was unbelievable"
-R.J. and Lorenz

Mancari was up last year too for 10 games.

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im with 1980 on this one. gerbe was downright bad in his first call up, and his first goal was a gift of a bad goal.... ennis produced, but, i heard he looked out of place alot.

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Absolutely wrong! Why? Because I never wrote off Gerbe either, I just think he has a tough road ahead of him due to an extreme size disadvantage.

I didn't think Gerbe looked bad in his first call-up. I was at his first game and he was all over the place. He had so many great chances to score, but just couldn't put it away. Quite a few breakaways, he just couldn't beat NHL goalies, which he probally won't be able to do on a regular occurence for at least another year.
I don't remember if Ennis looked bad. He didn't have any bad turnovers or anything though.

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GoSabres29, I remember the ten games last year. At first he looked pretty good, with a bunch of scoring chances before he finally popped one in. After that he seemed confident that he could be productive without getting his nose dirty. He's wrong but it's not like a player can't learn at his age. He's still obviously doing something right with the numbers he has in Portland, he just needs to realize what the extra step is to make it in the NHL. Last night certainly wasn't the deciding factor on it. To insist that it was is pretty obviously short sighted.

I agree with you for the most part. There are a lot of players who can produce in the AHL and not the NHL though, and I think Mancari is just that.
I really honestly hope he makes it here and plays good.
My only argument though is that he had a chance, and it looked like he didn't even try. Like I said, I'd rather have him have a few turnovers and some penalties, as long as he was actually trying, but he appeared to do nothing at all.

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Gerbe was trying to be TOO physical and not using his skillset.

His second call up he realized he can't do what he wants with his size. He can throw it around, but he can't play like a man 6 inches taller than himself.

Ennis, he just has exceptional skill which he can use at any level. He knew what he had to do and when to do it.

Kennedy, he already had a game or two in last year and knew what to expect in the NHL, during camp he elevated his play eve further to make the team.

Myers, well the kid is too cool and exceptional. He is an exception with the whole NHL thing. He is a gift basically who just knew what he had to do, he is just incredibly smart with the puck and without it.

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Ugh, anyone waiting for Mancari to develop is high or has TBI. He has proven through three call-ups (since he has already been sent back down) that he is no NHL-calibre player. He's a career AHLer, barring any sort of miraculous development.

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mechaphil

Thank you.

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And for the record, and anyone who was a regular of forums.sabres.com since before last season knows I was, and still am, a big fan of Mancari's. He just can't hack it with the big boys, despite he himself being one helluva big boy.

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If he could learn to be a Gaustad type player, I'd be ssssooooo happy, but I don't think he will. Kassian should be a better Gaustad. I can't wait for Kassian!

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To compare what Gaustad has learned to be as a hockey player to what Kassian should be is, to be perfectly honest, an insult to Kassian. Gaustad began his career as a fourth line punching center, and has worked his way up to being a low-scoring third line center/faceoff specialist/special teams juggernaut. Kassian is a scoring/hitting power forward, a top-six brand of player. If Kassian even merely turns out to be as good as suggested, then he'll be far and away superior to Goose in all aspects (besides faceoffs and possibly the PK).

Comparing what Mancari could have been to what Kassian looks to already be is more accurate than to compare Goose and Kassian.

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I can't wait for Kassian to be an NHL player. Those are going to be some VERY fun seasons of hockey for Sabres fans.

As far as Goose goes, he's just the ultimate traditional hockey player. The guy that is quite honestly not just maximizing, but surpassing his potential, due to a motivated, dedicated work ethic that is matched by few in the NHL.

I think Goose looks at a picture of the Stanley Cup when he wakes up every morning.

I hope like hell he can get it in a Sabres uniform, because a guy like him deserves it.

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Very true, PSP. He was projected to never reach the NHL, and now he's an integral part of a team and a possible Olympic bubble player.

You know a guy is good when every season his point totals rise from the last (and in Goose's case, so do his PIMs ).

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