After the initial form of the Publc Option was removed, and replaced with a plan to allow seniors to buy into Medicare at 55, it appear that even that plan is about to get tossed.

Holy Joe Lieberman has LONG supported the idea to allow 55-64 year olds to buy in to Medicare early. As recently as 3 months ago, he was talking that idea up.

But now that the chips are down, he says he'll join a filibuster of the health care bill if such a provision is included.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/14/health.care/index.html

Regardless of which side of the debate you're on, you have to admit that this is just garbage. Lieberman has pulled this nonsense for years, and I really hope that the people of Connecticut get this guy out of office as soon as they can.

To this, I say Fuck Ottawa.

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meh, there isn't gonna be any money for any of these programs anyways. While every state(48 I think) is scrambling to pay their heating bill, the fed. gov't thinks they still have a platinum card. Retards.

In layman's terms; Let's fight with the wife about the size of the new LCD tv WE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO BUY ANYWAYS. WE'RE WAYYY BEYOND BROKE AS A JOKE.


even rent-a-center won't rip us off any more.

the '92 topaz has become the official car of the U.S. treasury team.


...but anyways, ya def fuck Joe Lieberman. Why let one fucker have so much power cause he runs on the douche-bag ticket?? Although it's hate the game not the player here too, though.

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I agree. I don't see where there is room for profit in such an important area as this. It's like saying the bookie was an important part of gambling before the internet came along, and should still be given his 10% cut. Just fucking cut the shareholder out of the equation, period. Believe me Zilla, I have no idea why some people can't get this simple principle.

The simple principle is that a system based off of profits will be more effective, efficient and groundbreaking than one run by a bureaucracy.

Ham

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- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

You got a mouse in your pocket?

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You know what? You're a sincere and passionate guy. I almost feel bad for ya on this one


Yeah, the government run system we have now is quite efficient...at denying claims.


http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/05/ama ... re-claims/

Yet the latest crack at a public option the Democrats can come up with is pushing everyone into the medicare. Brilliant!

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Wake up folks! The real issue is NOT healthcare, or cap and tax, or all the other BS.

Government control over our lives is what is at stake. The main thrust of the 2,000 pages is the structure of our government and society, a power grab by the government to have ridiculous control over our lives and to redistribute wealth.

To pass this in ANY form will be disastrous. All this debate about public option and amendments is just a distraction. The Progressives will be able to reinstate later what doesn't make it in now, because they will have the power to do so, to shove it down our throats. Therefore, they are content now to make any bribes necessary to get it passed.

Those in Congress voting for this, selling out their honor, are committing political suicide. They're toast.

Now Howard Dean says kill the Senate bill because of no public option....

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/healt ... nate-bill/

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I honestly cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or insane.

One should always be skeptical and resistant to government taking power and liberty from its citizens.

Why aren't you?

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You say that as if they're separate things.

Pick your poison...Some corporations control Republicans and some control Democrats. The very large ones control both.

Corporations however don't have a direct influence on my liberty or freedoms...government does.

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Plus, a corporation cannot mandate that you support them. The government can mandate you do all sorts of things many of us would rather not.

Ham

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Oligopoly may as well be monopoly. It's 3 corporations promising not to compete with each other too much, so as to take the advantage away from the consumer.

When the government MANDATES health insurance, they will, in effect, be mandating that you support the oligopoly(corporation).

You may want to re-think it a bit.


C'mon X. I know you're a lot smarter than this. It's called lobbying, and it's how laws are legislated now. It's not directly A to B, but it may as well be.

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