Idk how a defensemen could be +50 and have no points.. Part of getting into the positive is creating offense.. If all of the defensemen on your team have 0 points your gonna have a REALLY shitty team..

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Miller, Myers and Greir are sick, but not Jesus Christ..

KILL OTTAWA

There is certainly love for Myers over on THN.com - here's the linky.

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mechaphil

Did you guys not see the two articles I posted up and the excerpts from them.

Myers is getting more love for Calder than anyone else basically.

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I saw...in fact, someone double posted your link. I'm just saying, he's getting plenty of love from EVERYONE.

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mechaphil

He also plays for Buffalo so unless you are Ryan miller you're not going to get huge coverage on NHL.com anyways. haha

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Here's what I say to that bullshit.

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"...they came down into the stands and asked if I knew how to do play by play. I said...No. But. I'll take a shot at it if you want".- Rick Jeanneret

lmao @ hedman being on the list but not myers.....GOOD JOB MORONS !!!!

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"It is more about them than it is about the team...Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win." - Mike Singletary

Tyler Myers - Future captain of the Buffalo Sabres, and future Norris Trophy Winner

Manning the machine gun on the Tyler Myers Bandwagon - just in case any teams have an idea of prying him away from us (3 GM's shot already)

Connolly/Roy - 2 goals in the last 47 playoff games

I like how "other" is a strong 2nd in voting.

Ham

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Do you believe yet?

You know what NHL.com?!? Fuck you!!!

Actually Ive seen Tyler on the front page early on this season and they have him nominated as the calder trophy winner at the halfway mark..

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=512581

Plus they have Miller as the vezina trophy winner.. So no complaints here.. Thanks NHL.com..

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Miller, Myers and Greir are sick, but not Jesus Christ..

KILL OTTAWA

I apologize if you don't understand the comparison. If he's on the ice when our team scores, it doesn't mean he gets an assist (point), but it does mean that
1) He kept the puck out of OUR net
2) He may or may not have assisted in the breakout
3) The puck may pass back and forth between our OFFENSIVE players many times in the offensive zone
4) He kept the puck out of OUR net

And don't think I'm naive enough to think that they won't pick up points along the way to a ridiculous +/-, I'm using a manner of speech (exaggeration) to amplify my point.

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Not getting a negative means the 5 players on the ice at the time kept the puck out of OUR net.. He's not the sole reason for his +/-.. I mean, Tallinder is leading our team with +/-.. Does thast mean he's our best Defensemen?

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Miller, Myers and Greir are sick, but not Jesus Christ..

KILL OTTAWA

it means that Myers is helping tallinder's play, and boosting tallinder's stats


damnit, look at afinogenov playing with kovalchuk

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

+/- is no indication of how good a player is anyways.

Normally the best players in the league don't have a +50, and some are a Plus but it is more rare to see a top line player going +25 or higher.

Most of them average +10 throughout a season.

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lindstrom of the red wings may beg to differ on how a +/- stat reflects a player

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"It is more about them than it is about the team...Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win." - Mike Singletary

Tyler Myers - Future captain of the Buffalo Sabres, and future Norris Trophy Winner

Manning the machine gun on the Tyler Myers Bandwagon - just in case any teams have an idea of prying him away from us (3 GM's shot already)

Connolly/Roy - 2 goals in the last 47 playoff games

Only because he was a on a team good team that almost all of their players in the positive.. On the other hand, some crappy teams have superstar players, but they are in the negative..

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Miller, Myers and Greir are sick, but not Jesus Christ..

KILL OTTAWA

I don't agree with this at all. Certainly given a small sample size, you can disregard +/- to circumstances (i.e. a goal went in but wasn't his fault), but over a long stretch of time, it is a very good measure of how well rounded a player is.

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

I don't like the +/- stat really. Because most of the better defensemen in the league are typically a very low Plus or a minus.

If you're going against the top lines all the time, and a defender, well most of the time you won't be positive really. I only like to compare team mates not throughout the league at least.

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In any case, I won't be impressed with myers until he brings home a cup, four norris trophies and a lady byng.

Sorry, just being a "realist."

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Proud LGBTQQ Individual

How does not winning a cup make you not impressed with a player??

Winning a cup is a team achievement, not a player achievement..

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Miller, Myers and Greir are sick, but not Jesus Christ..

KILL OTTAWA

I believe it was huge sarcasm from Alex.

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