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oh, i think ennis has alot of potential. just not sure its top flight.

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Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

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Ennis- Future star, no doubt in my mind
TJ Brennan- Great hands, good vision, 2nd pair D man
Weber- Toughness, Grit, blocks shots, 2nd pair d man
Kassian- Too early to tell, great size, great power
Myers- Top Flight no dobut
Adam- Could be top flight, too early to tell
Foligno- Physical, tough forward, has some hands, could develop to be better than his brother
Enroth- Future Marty Birion at worst.

So much talent on the farm, I'd rather trade away an aging veteran like Rivet, or Lydman, or even Connolly before we gave up any of these guys

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Ennis- Future star, no doubt in my mind
TJ Brennan- Great hands, good vision, 2nd pair D man
Weber- Toughness, Grit, blocks shots, 2nd pair d man
Kassian- Too early to tell, great size, great power
Myers- Top Flight no dobut
Adam- Could be top flight, too early to tell
Foligno- Physical, tough forward, has some hands, could develop to be better than his brother
Enroth- Future Marty Birion at worst.

So much talent on the farm, I'd rather trade away an aging veteran like Rivet, or Lydman, or even Connolly before we gave up any of these guys


Watching Folingo here in the OHL and he is just above OK. I would not be sad if they traded him, he seems lazy to me.

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myers isnt a prospect anymore.
adams i dont think is top flight. scoring in the Q isnt exactly a rough feat.
brennan sucks
i dont have high hopes for enroth, he might be a biron.
weber, i like him. i feel your observations on him are spot on.

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patkane88 wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
Ennis- Future star, no doubt in my mind
TJ Brennan- Great hands, good vision, 2nd pair D man
Weber- Toughness, Grit, blocks shots, 2nd pair d man
Kassian- Too early to tell, great size, great power
Myers- Top Flight no dobut
Adam- Could be top flight, too early to tell
Foligno- Physical, tough forward, has some hands, could develop to be better than his brother
Enroth- Future Marty Birion at worst.

So much talent on the farm, I'd rather trade away an aging veteran like Rivet, or Lydman, or even Connolly before we gave up any of these guys


Watching Folingo here in the OHL and he is just above OK. I would not be sad if they traded him, he seems lazy to me.


Keep in mind he just turned 18, He's still got atleast 2 years before he can even think about playing AHL hockey, he'll improve a lot. He's going to be Barnaby like.

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slesh wrote:
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the sabres dont have any top flight, cant miss prospects. plenty of potential second liners, third liners, such. nothing that the sabres simply cant part with (kassian may be the exception)

Irony,

Your not even curious as to what this kid Ennis might show us? Come on now, just a little? :think:


Ennis is going to be a very good goal scorer.

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fly as hale wrote:
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Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

Um? Dont tell me to calm down.... I dont need to calm down cuz I am calm... Im just sick of hearing the same thing... and seeing no results... so please dont tell me what to do...

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Rutledge222 wrote:
Ok my question for you is, Do you think or KNOW this team can win the Cup without a trade? I mean yes take in certain factors like the team getting hot, Miller getting better, Vanek finally scoring, etc etc... it all depends, But RIGHT NOW, do you believe that THIS team is Capable of winning the cup? I think its POSSIBLE... but not Probable,... they need to get a Key player or two that can add something to this team and then we have a REAL shot at the cup, thats just my opinion...


I believe that this team is going to get to the level they need to be at come april to win it all.

Right now, they're focusing on goal scoring and possession. You can see in their play over recent weeks that James Patrick is doing a very good job with the power play, and that Lindy's tweaks to the system are improving our offensive potency very well.

Couple that with Vanek and Pominville really finding their games late in the season, a full season of puck possession hockey under their belts, a top 3 penalty kill, and a playoff bound Ryan Miller, and I think we have ourselves a team that is going to be VERY difficult to beat in a 7 game series.

If we were to make a trade, I wouldn't want it to be a Kovalchuk type player that would take a ton of commitment for a return that wouldn't fit well with this team.

I'd be looking for someone in the Cammallari mold. Not necessarily him, because obviously Montreal won't be giving him up. But I want a guy who plays both ends of the ice, and is a good finisher.

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Rutledge222 wrote:
fly as hale wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

Um? Dont tell me to calm down.... I dont need to calm down cuz I am calm... Im just sick of hearing the same thing... and seeing no results... so please dont tell me what to do...


We're not just going to make a trade for the hell of making a trade. Right now nobody is trading with a few exceptions. It's January 14th, the Olympics are coming up, injuries can happen, why make a trade now and then have a guy like Hank or Miller go down, and not have any assets to trade to get a replacement to help us?

It's not about winning in January it's about winning in April and May

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
fly as hale wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

Um? Dont tell me to calm down.... I dont need to calm down cuz I am calm... Im just sick of hearing the same thing... and seeing no results... so please dont tell me what to do...


We're not just going to make a trade for the hell of making a trade. Right now nobody is trading with a few exceptions. It's January 14th, the Olympics are coming up, injuries can happen, why make a trade now and then have a guy like Hank or Miller go down, and not have any assets to trade to get a replacement to help us?

It's not about winning in January it's about winning in April and May



I didnt say make a trade right now... I said that they better make a trade... I didnt specify when... but my intentions were for them to actually Make one at the deadline... and I disagree. you need to win games now... if you dont win them now they can screw you over... we saw that two seasons ago when we went like 1 win and 10 losses in January and missed the playoffs by 2 points... so ya you better win games now as well as in April, and May assuming we make the playoffs (i have no doubt we will make the playoffs but im just saying).

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we could use a real offensive defenseman. if it be a prospect. but they wont trade till the deadline. i mean some of our prospects i would keep but guys like perrson, brennan, a couple others i'd say good bye to if we got a true offensive d man who can play d as well. but like has been said until something happens quinn is nothing but talk

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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Ok my question for you is, Do you think or KNOW this team can win the Cup without a trade? I mean yes take in certain factors like the team getting hot, Miller getting better, Vanek finally scoring, etc etc... it all depends, But RIGHT NOW, do you believe that THIS team is Capable of winning the cup? I think its POSSIBLE... but not Probable,... they need to get a Key player or two that can add something to this team and then we have a REAL shot at the cup, thats just my opinion...


I believe that this team is going to get to the level they need to be at come april to win it all.

Right now, they're focusing on goal scoring and possession. You can see in their play over recent weeks that James Patrick is doing a very good job with the power play, and that Lindy's tweaks to the system are improving our offensive potency very well.

Couple that with Vanek and Pominville really finding their games late in the season, a full season of puck possession hockey under their belts, a top 3 penalty kill, and a playoff bound Ryan Miller, and I think we have ourselves a team that is going to be VERY difficult to beat in a 7 game series.

If we were to make a trade, I wouldn't want it to be a Kovalchuk type player that would take a ton of commitment for a return that wouldn't fit well with this team.

I'd be looking for someone in the Cammallari mold. Not necessarily him, because obviously Montreal won't be giving him up. But I want a guy who plays both ends of the ice, and is a good finisher.



I agree with that, very well put. I mean I mis-wrote my post before, I should have also put in that I have no doubt we will make it to the playoffs, my concern is, with someone like Vanek, who still hasnt really done anything... can we honestly count on him bringing his game up ten full? well We could expect him to bring his A game,.... but right now he has been a real disappointment which should concern everyone. Im not mr. gloom and doom about the playoffs, I want to see us win, and win it all. But its true we DO need one more key player to finish the whole deal, I mean I have no doubt like you said about the team causing problems in a 7 game series. But Im sure I speak for every buffalo fan that we dont want to just cause problems in the playoffs, we want a cup. Plain and Simple.

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Rutledge222 wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
fly as hale wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

Um? Dont tell me to calm down.... I dont need to calm down cuz I am calm... Im just sick of hearing the same thing... and seeing no results... so please dont tell me what to do...


We're not just going to make a trade for the hell of making a trade. Right now nobody is trading with a few exceptions. It's January 14th, the Olympics are coming up, injuries can happen, why make a trade now and then have a guy like Hank or Miller go down, and not have any assets to trade to get a replacement to help us?

It's not about winning in January it's about winning in April and May



I didnt say make a trade right now... I said that they better make a trade... I didnt specify when... but my intentions were for them to actually Make one at the deadline... and I disagree. you need to win games now... if you dont win them now they can screw you over... we saw that two seasons ago when we went like 1 win and 10 losses in January and missed the playoffs by 2 points... so ya you better win games now as well as in April, and May assuming we make the playoffs (i have no doubt we will make the playoffs but im just saying).


What are we even missing, and what can we get now with 1.6M in cap space, thats better than what we have? You're not going to trade Hecht for Sharp, or Rivet for Keith...also we weren't 2nd in the conference going into January.

Darcy always makes a move at the deadline. Look back, when was the last time he didn't make a move at the deadline? He's not going to make a blockbuster, because it's not possible given our limited cap space...it's not all about this year either, there's no reason to sell the farm to get a prized bull...it's about success in the short and long term.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
fly as hale wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Thats what I was thinking? Its like... ok if you really want to win the cup THAT BADLY then freakin bring in someone who can get the damn job done instead of just talking about it...

Calm down, the trade deadline isn't until March 3rd.

Um? Dont tell me to calm down.... I dont need to calm down cuz I am calm... Im just sick of hearing the same thing... and seeing no results... so please dont tell me what to do...


We're not just going to make a trade for the hell of making a trade. Right now nobody is trading with a few exceptions. It's January 14th, the Olympics are coming up, injuries can happen, why make a trade now and then have a guy like Hank or Miller go down, and not have any assets to trade to get a replacement to help us?

It's not about winning in January it's about winning in April and May



I didnt say make a trade right now... I said that they better make a trade... I didnt specify when... but my intentions were for them to actually Make one at the deadline... and I disagree. you need to win games now... if you dont win them now they can screw you over... we saw that two seasons ago when we went like 1 win and 10 losses in January and missed the playoffs by 2 points... so ya you better win games now as well as in April, and May assuming we make the playoffs (i have no doubt we will make the playoffs but im just saying).


What are we even missing, and what can we get now with 1.6M in cap space, thats better than what we have? You're not going to trade Hecht for Sharp, or Rivet for Keith...also we weren't 2nd in the conference going into January.

Darcy always makes a move at the deadline. Look back, when was the last time he didn't make a move at the deadline? He's not going to make a blockbuster, because it's not possible given our limited cap space...it's not all about this year either, there's no reason to sell the farm to get a prized bull...it's about success in the short and long term.



I know you cant trade garbage for gold, everyone here knows that... I mean... IDK personally what we would get... I just dont know... and I know darcy never makes blockbuster moves... but it would be nice for once to go for a trade where the player didnt completely flop and not really do anything for us, and then leave.... aka Bernier, and Zubrus...

So idk , you tell me what you think we need... I think personally we need a good two way player, whether thats a Forward that can do well on getting back and playing good defense, or and Defender that can move the puck and score goals. either way, that kinda player would be a really good addition...

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Lets not forget as well, that even an average goal scorer can become a very good goal scorer after a trade, because he plays better in the new system, and he jumps on a hot team.

An example of that is the Guerin to Pittsburgh trade. Sure he's playing with top of the line talent, but he also walked into steel city with a new swagger in his game.

Preferably a guy that's not as old as Guerin, but if he comes at the right price and we think it'll give us a better shot, then what's the downside? Especially with a lot of prime young talent down in Portland.

I don't have center ice anymore, so it's been difficult for me to keep an eye on other teams and who might be available out there. But that's what I'm thinking in terms of a trade.

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This part threw me off. "As usual, Quinn has some ideas to make the Sabres product better. He said changes are in store for next year. He didn’t have an exact date, but the transition to road games airing in high definition is underway."

At first, I'm like OH BOY.... and then I was like... OOOOF course.


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Rutledge222 wrote:
Dont tell me to calm down....

Calm down.

Oooh, I'm bad.

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