I certainly never said that. I've donated money already.
I was just pointing out Limbaugh's statement was factually correct....unlike Pat Robertson, who was just being a dick.

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I didn't mean to imply that was your position XC. Just commenting on the idiocy of Limbaugh's statements.

Being factually correct shouldn't give you a free pass on being a fuckstick.

I'm just gonna point out now that, with no intent to add to this discussion, I think both Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson are motherless motherfuckers and each needs a swift kick in the marbles.

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Yeeaaah, I've gotten to see the true colors of a lot of my Facebook friends when various events have happened in the past.

At some point, with one thing, I got fed up enough that I started putting the smack down on their biased, willfully ignorant, classless, and cruel status updates, even though I know that they would not be open to hearing it because they would rather feel right than actually be right. Not a single one even attempted replying back. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Thankfully nothing like that's happened with this, but I am still the only of my Facebook friends that has posted anything about Haiti at all; I gave a link to donate. Sigh.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

I understand donating to Haiti; but suppose something like this happened in England or some other advanced country...do you think we'd take the same action?

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now that im reading this, i think im going to propose something to my french club
(something my own french teacher said)

fund raise, send money to Haïti

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

I have a hard time separating the word WE vs the rest of the world. The countries that are sending resources whether it be money, military, supplies, & medical staff truly are coming from every where. The world might not be re-acting globally if this happened in a country that was more stable or self-sustaining? I dunno. It kind of goes back to sending money to a country whose people are starving when the fact is you can't grow food in a desert.

Next time I'm in line at my deli waiting for my 1/2 pound of prosciutto and fresh baked rolls, I'll remember not to complain that I stood there 6 minutes.

My only intention was the human tragedy aspect. It is truly overwhelming.

Yes.

I could not imagine the rest of the world not helping if an earthquake causing that much devastation occurred in New York City (which is not as densely populated as Port-au-Prince, but it's the closest we've got in terms of scale).

They did for China, after that earthquake. They didn't for us after 9/11 and Katrina because they were absolutely nothing compared to this or the tsunami, for example. Nothing at all.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

Jael, you bring up some good points. Unfortunately, we had 3000 unprovoked souls perish on 9/11, but we have infrastructure to deal with it and it was contained to city blocks. They probably have 3000 people trapped and still alive that can't be reached.

Not to diminish what happened, but my Gosh, those people in Haiti have nothing. They eat mud to sustain life. I could go ahead and be an asshat right now and ask; "Why do people in countries like this re-produce?" but then I'd sound like a douche bag.

What is wrong with their government after the aid they receive yearly (as mentioned earlier)? Granted, you can't predict an earthquake, but what exactly was the money they receive every year intended for and used for?

I am still donating something. I'd rather just go there and help dig if I could. How do you survive and escape nothing when you have nothing? I don't get it.

CNN's coverage today was astounding. Watching their doctor/reporter Sanjay Gupta(sp?) try to help a 15 day old infant with a head gash was surreal.

All I know is I have a bed, food, water & heat.

fixed

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He needs to just retire already, disgrace to whatever the hell party he's trying to support and giving conservative radio a collective black spot.

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Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

20 years after Haiti gained independence from France, the French navy surrounded Haiti and demanded monetary reparations for the 'loss of a slave colony'. They didn't have much of a choice in the matter, so they started making payments. They agreed to pay 150M Francs to France. In today's dollars, that's in the neighborhood of $20 billion USD.

When Haiti was under control of the Duvalier family, they spent close to 30 years stealing foreign aid money, and taking out new foreign loans for their own purpose. Roughly 45% of the entire national debt of Haiti is money stolen by the Duvaliers. There's also a good chunk of money owed to the US government. It's so bad that Haiti barely has the money to pay the interest on what it owes.

Thankfully, the French government is moving forward on a plan to forgive their debts, as is the US government. Just about all of the debt inured by the Duvaliers is considered illegal based on international laws regarding such things. (Basically, you can't take a loan out on behalf of a country and use the money for personal gain.)

They've been behind the 8 ball since the inception of their nation thanks to France, and the US.

http://www.razoo.com/p/haiti

There's a list of organizations where charitable donations get matched and 100% of the funds donated go forward.

I feel the need to share more of the Facebook shitbaggery on this topic.

You need to re-evaluate who your friends are

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Heh. He's in the category of guys that I would say hello to if I saw em out, but probably wouldn't go out of my way to hang out with otherwise.

personally for me, it wouldn't matter who it happened to, I'd want our country to help no matter what. A terrible tragedy happens, I couldn't imagine just sitting back and not doing anything. Even if it was a country who hasn't done shit for us or has more resources, I wouldn't care, I still wouldn't feel right doing nothing. But of course, that's just my personal type of mentality, I know not everyone would agree. I just feel horrible about the situation.

In Haiti's case, it's even more extreme, they didn't have much to begin with and for this to happen now, it's truly horrible. I feel guilty having as much stuff as I do. Being a poor college student, I wish there was more I could do financially, but I think I may do that thing where you text a certain number and it will add like 10 dollars to your phone bill. I know it's not much but every little bit helps I suppose, and it's definitely better than nothing.

No kidding. Here's a nice tidbit from a gay Democrat:

That's practically...word for word...what I heard on a right wing talk radio show on my drive home from work.

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Completely agree. I cannot add any more to this.

<edit>Yeah, I can add more: There go your (and my) tax dollars being well-spent. We already have delinquent taxpayers who do not pay their fair share to begin with. Now we'll have to balance the budget on the backs of the people who can ill-afford to be taxed yet again to fund our National Debt because we took care of those who are not our own.

Perhaps it is a jaundiced POV, but I have been around long enough to see what giving to others has done. Disaster and poverty-stricken countries have come to expect a handout from the good ol' US of A, but do you think any one of them will be there for us? We are villified for being the "bully" and meddling in the world's affairs and blasted for our "liberal" views among certain rigid factions, but boy, they sure do love our money.

How does the saying go? Lemme think on that one. Oh yeah--"The French hate Americans, but they sure do love our money."

I am probably going to take shit for saying what I really feel, but I feel very strongly about this. I respect that others have a different POV--so I mean no offense to them, but I had to comment on this. I never get into forum political debates, but I had to speak my piece on this one.

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