Dude, I said out of the crease and in the trapezoid, a goalie is off-limits.

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mechaphil

well, considering the trapezoid is likely to be gone soon, i just dont think that a goalie should be hit outside of a confined area. its a huge grey area.

any contact knocking the goalie off his feet should be 2 minutes. and a goalie wont dive, because, hell, the puck is in the zone.

its just not safe to hit a goalie, nor should be legal. contact is fine, but knocking him over? hell no. and a vehemently oppose the theory else wise.

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Goalies are afforded due protection with the rules and culture already in place.

Stay at home, you won't be smoked...if you are, it's a penalty and a beatdown for the offender.
Wander off and you're forfeiting those built in protections.

End of story IMO.
Price went swimming with sharks and got bitten.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

The rules still say that incidental contact with a goalie outside of his crease is still illegal.

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Price took a poor chance and didn't give Jannsen anywhere to go since it was right against the boards. As for Gomez, he knew damn well what he was doing. He could have stopped shy of Miller on what was a very routine play. Gomez CHOSE to stop into Miller - he made sure he put the brakes on before hitting Miller but far too late to avoid contact. He wanted it to look accidental, and I also think he didn't intend to hurt Miller.

Even still, he chose to make contact and should have taken responsibility for causing an injury...or just taken a beat down. Still hoping for that in the last game against NYR this season.

Anyone who thinks he didn't try to injure Miller didn't see the picture from the Buffalo News the next morning with Gomez smiling like a dirty little cocksucker directly after the collision.

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Oh don't get me wrong. I think he was happy about it after the fact, and enjoyed that he pissed the whole team off. I think he's a total asshole, I just don't think he actually intended injury at that moment, but was pleased with the result anyway.

i never thought gomez meant to hurt miller. the odds of hurting someone with that contact are one in a million. if you mean to injure someone, you will go with something better. did he mean to bump miller? sure. injure? nah, i never thought so.

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He's with the Habs now.

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Yeah, sorry...I knew that.

Price was skating at full speed toward the puck along the wall.
If I'm the forward on that play I'm going to go hard for the puck myself...it's an awesome scoring opportunity.
I don't see that as incidental contact at all.

I dunno, I've only seen that one angle but it doesn't give me much sympathy for Price's cause.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

truth be told, what they are wearing will protect them to an extent if they fall. the only place they are lacking that is different from skaters is on their back (and most chest protectors will have something small their anyway). other then that they are protected. as far as the masks go. while they might have been built for pucks only, they will still protect a player from the ice if need be. might hurt a little more, but the player will be fine.

as for the limited mobility. goalies can move in their stuff pretty damn well since they have to be able to make the quick saves that are necessary for their job. sure, they are slower then they would be with out any of it but the mobility isnt horrible but any means.

im well aware that it still hurts to get hit with the puck but it sounds like your saying a bullet proof vest will stop a bullet but a punch to the stomach will break the ribs.

now, i dont agree with goalies being completely off limits for simply for that fact that it makes them, more or less, gods. if a goalie goes out like price did in that situation then they have to expect some kind of contact. not necessarily a full body check or even what Janssen did but your putting yourself, unnecessarily, in harms way at that point and their will should probably be consequences.

All this coming from another goalie.

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Frankly, I thought Price destroyed Jannssen.

I don't think goaltenders should ever be fair game, but at the same time, if you're going to come out to the top of the circles to play a puck, you're probably going to run into someone and should keep that in mind.

I think if the goalie leaves the crease/trapezoid, he should be fair game. If it's in the rules, it changes the mindset of the goalie - then you can't cry about it not being "fair".

Right now, it's illegal, regardless of where the contact occurs. So you're right to complain, but I think you're biased

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I have mixed emotions about this particular hit. First, Price saw Janssen coming for the puck at full speed but so did Janssen. Price was way too far out of the net with a opposing player coming into the zone. He put himself in a real bind if Janssen didn't hit price and got the puck. I don't 100% agree with Prices' decision but Janssen should have backed off so I do consider it an illegal.

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I think that if you're going to act like a skater, you should be treated like one, equipment or no, with the exception of behind the net.

If a goalie comes that far out, they know that contact is a strong possibility, and should be prepared for it.

I'm not advocating all out body checks on goalies, but they should expect some contact.

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Absolutely CV. I just watched the hit....he was closer to the blue line than his blue paint...

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IMO I agree with a lot of things said here. Goalies should be protected, but in the case that this thread specifies, Price came out of his crease to play the puck and Janssen was just doing what he's trained to do, and thats go after the puck. They made contact..There really isn't much physics you can talk about to make them not collide at that point.

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And Janssen tried jumping to avoid contact, he just ended up sort of falling on Price.

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i dont know what jumping would have done...if he thought he was going to clear him hes nuts. that being said i dont know what else he could have done. sliding would have been a lot worse. i guess he could have attempted to stop and block the pass? i dont know...

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